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The New MSU-B Poll

by: Matt Singer

Fri Nov 16, 2007 at 10:32:07 AM MST


Other folks have already written up the big numbers from the MSU-B poll. I've had my doubts about the MSU-B poll ever since it produced a very, very weird number in the Brown-Schweitzer race in 2004. That set of doubts resulted in a nasty email from Craig Wilson after I questioned the poll's numbers last year showing Tester up 11 points over Burns in the final weeks of the race, when we know the contest was becoming closer.

All that said, none of these numbers strike me as on their face unlikely, but that may be because I like the low approval ratings for the war in Iraq or the high approval of Tester.

Anyways, my point is simply this: the MSU-B poll has correctly predicted outcomes in the past, but the margins have been completely out-of-line.

This will probably result in more push-back. That's fine. I just think that an honest discussion of where the numbers from '04 and '06 came from -- and "margin of error" doesn't cut it.

Still, if we take the numbers at face value, what does this tell us about the electoral safety of Dennis Rehberg, Max Baucus, and Brian Schweitzer? Well, long story short, Bill Kennedy, Mike Lange, and Roy Brown all have their work cut out for them -- big time. But bigger approval ratings have been cut down by effective criticism in the past.

So, take heart, partisans of both sides. While it isn't likely that any of these three will be unseated, there's a possibility with a campaign run well on issues that connect with Montanans. Others have pointed out that Mr. Rehberg just may be susceptible to some criticism for his staunch support of the President's war in Iraq. I think that's probably some good advice.

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Matt, I believe Rehberg is trying to insulate himself already and distance himself from Bush.... (0.00 / 0)
that's evident by his comments this morning in the major daily's that he is taking the high road on earmarks, calling the Bush Administration fiscally irresponsible. Those are the kind of things that ring true with the average Joe 6-pack out there who's not really paying attention to politics like we do, just putting in a full shift at work and wants to feed the family and have enough money left over to gas up a snowmobile or take the family on vacation.

I have no doubt (0.00 / 0)
He's also moved on SCHIP, college affordability, and other issues. He's running to the center.

The earmarks stuff is an easier shift than some of this other stuff, because it doesn't endanger his relationship with his base.


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SCHIP (0.00 / 0)
I believe SCHIP had nothing to do with distancing himself from Bush. I think Denny is afraid of Max. Maxxymillions has money to burn with no serious contender, and I think he could easily spend it trying to unseat a guy who voted against one of his proudest achievments.

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Old Chinese Proverb... (0.00 / 0)
Fools and their money are soon parted.....Max isn't that dumb, what's Bill Kennedy ever done for him? Kennedy couldn't even beat Brad Johnson for crying out loud, Max knows he doesn't have a dawg in that fight so why get your hands dirty if you don't have too. Even Max is smart enuf' to know how to pick his battles.

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Matt do you remember what Burns was polling at in say June of 05, it was the high 60s wasn't it? So i agree anyone of these guys could be bumped off, i would think Max would be safe and thus the race to watch i think will be Brian v Roy... I think Bill has run one to many times and has burned out...

Race to Watch (0.00 / 0)
Brown has way to many skeletons in his closet to even come close to Schweitzer.  He was just up in Havre and denounce 4 for HWY 2.  Regardless of how you feel about making HWY 2 four lanes that is the wrong thing to say on the Highline. 
I think we are going to have to watch Rehberg.  Even with Kennedy out he is yet to take a stance on the war, which has cost us $1.6 trillion.  Say what you will about his soft move on earmarks, we could have invested $1.6 trillion into domestic energy production and conservation.  Who ever runs against DC Denny has to make these points.

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