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What's "victory" in Iraq, anyway?

by: Jay Stevens

Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 07:33:30 AM MST


Slate's Fred Kaplan has an excellent question: "What does Bush mean by 'Victory in Iraq'"?

I say "excellent," because Iraq is going to play a major role in the upcoming election, and will be used as a political cudgel for years to come, even if we withdraw in 2009, not a safe assumption. And I say "excellent" because the definition of victory is as elusive today as the cause of the war was in 2003.

Kaplan:

Originally, victory was conceived in grandiose terms. The defeat of Saddam Hussein's army and the toppling of his regime would spawn a new democratic Iraq, the example of which would ignite the flames of freedom across the Middle East.

Bush scaled back the standard in a November 2005 speech at the U.S. Naval Academy titled "A Strategy for Victory." This victory will come, he said, "when the terrorists and Saddamists can no longer threaten Iraq's democracy, when the Iraqi security forces can provide for the safety of their own citizens, and when Iraq is not a safe-haven for terrorists to plot new attacks on our nation."

Neither victory goal seems realistic, especially now that al-Sadr's cease fire shows signs of ending and the "Sunni Awakening" unravels, threatening to reverse the recent and relative quiet in Iraq, which never did provide the political compromises and coalitions needed to ensure a stable and democratic Iraq. Oh, and if you believe the "surge" was responsible for the quiet - though most evidence suggests otherwise - well, that's coming to an end, too.

If we can trust the Bush administration - and there's no reason to think we can - and take their avowed victory goals at face value, we've already lost. There's little or no chance we'll achieve especially the audacious and ignorant goals of administration pre-war rhetoric. There'll be no "Velvet Revolution" across the Middle East; our invasion has only inflamed tensions and pushed more people towards the region's radicals. The longer we stay, the worse it will become.

But I don't buy the administration's rhetoric. The causus belli and the definition of victory, like the term, "the war on terror," has always been vague and plastic. It gives the war's architects the power to indefinitely perpetuate conflict - which, if the war is about oil, fits in nicely with an endless occupation, the "100 years in Iraq" John McCain recently promised us.

This ambiguity also serves partisan political goals. The Republican party can claim that, in the event of a Democratic-led withdrawal, the left "lost" the war. Setting unattainable terms of victory, as Bush has done, only serves to foster that message. Even if Republicans want to end the war, they can shift the burden of withdrawal onto Democrats, hitting them politically for it, while simultaneously enjoying the economic, diplomatic, security advantages that would accompany the end of the war.

Unless it's about the oil. In that case we'll never leave no matter who's in charge.

Here's the thing. It's not a "war." The war was won long ago. We're involved in an "occupation." You don't win occupations, you endure them, then end them.  

Jay Stevens :: What's "victory" in Iraq, anyway?
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This would be a good time to revisit (0.00 / 0)
White House Press Secretary Tony Snow's excellent work trying to defend Bush's Iraq policy in October of '06, and define what the h*** the war was about. As tough of a job as it was to decipher Bush & Co., at least they had an intelligent person who could communicate, trying to make the best of it:

MR. SNOW: Let me try to explain the terms I'm using the way I've used, because it's given us all plenty to talk about the last two weeks. So I will assert press secretary's privilege to define the terms of the debate, and then we can talk about it.

Let's first set the goal, what do you want to achieve. You want to achieve as a goal an Iraq that can sustain, defend and govern itself. What is the strategy? The strategy is to use not merely military force, but other means at your disposal to create that secure Iraq. That includes a security component -- military, police, and so on. It includes a political component -- a government that is able to govern, and at the same time, also draws in parties from all over the country who are invested in it.

A third part is an economic component, because that is also going to be absolutely necessary to say to some who have gone into the insurgency, because they think they have no prospects, no, you've got prospects here. So the strategy is to use all three of those means to bring about the end, of an Iraq that can sustain, govern and defend itself...

MR. SNOW: An Iraq that can sustain, govern, and defend itself -- goal. Goal, strategy, tactics...

Q  We talk about winning and victory, and you're talking about an Iraq that can sustain, govern, and defend itself. Would you consider a victory for Iraq that can do those things where there was not a democracy, if they're not actually able to sustain a democracy?

MR. SNOW: Democracy is the goal that we have for the Iraqi people.

And on and on.

So victory is "An Iraq that can sustain, govern, and defend itself."

As clear of a statement as I've heard on the issue. The problem is, that nothing in that statement says anything about the U.S. It is all on the Iraqis to accomplish this successfully--the "itself" part. In other words, they'll do it when/if they want to do it, on their own time, and in their own way.

Which is why it is best for us to stand aside and let them do what they need to do to achieve our goal. Any more meddling on our behalf is contrary to victory as Snow defined Bush's policy a hear and a half ago. Iraq is going to have to do this itself. And the sooner it realizes that we can't prop up a false "victory," the sooner it will take matters into its own hands.

Democracy can never be imposed upon a country. That should be the lessoned learned from Bush's failed experiment in "Nation Building 101."


Permanent bases and oil (0.00 / 0)
"Victory," like "the war on terror," are smokescreens to keep the obvious objectives from becoming news.  Permanent bases and stealing Iraqi oil are the twin objectives of the re-invasion.  The Brits have been at this since 1917, when they first invaded Baghdad.

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