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Sirota on 2008 identity politics

by: Jay Stevens

Fri May 09, 2008 at 12:33:03 PM MST


Yesterday I made a clumsy stab at talking about the all the "demographics" buzz, which was an effort to try to split up the Democratic electorate into opposing camps based on class and race. My conclusion was that the numbers can be rigged to create all sorts of narratives, and in the end, it was pretty useless and destructive.

David Sirota also had a reaction to the demographics, but he concluded the buzz had the effect of discounting or minimizing the importance or value of African-American voters:

The news industry and politicians, on the other hand, are happy to discuss and exploit race, whether by manufacturing controversy (think Jeremiah Wright) or by promoting racists (think MSNBC hiring Pat Buchanan, or Republican senators re-electing Trent Lott to a leadership position). The media and political elites aren't ostriches - they behave like minstrel show producers, portraying African-Americans as subhuman, alien and unimportant, except for their entertainment value.

MSNBC's Chris Matthews, for example, differentiated between "regular people" and black people. Pundits refer separately to the "working class" and to African-Americans - as if they are mutually exclusive. Hillary Clinton this week claimed, "Obama's support among working, hardworking Americans, white Americans, is weakening" - the implication being that non-white Americans are lazy. These terms - "regular," "working class," "hardworking" - have become euphemisms for "whites," who are subsequently billed as the only ones that matter.

Think I'm imagining that last part? Then you weren't watching ABC's "Nightline" last week. The Jeremiah Wright brouhaha may be roiling the black community, correspondent David Wright said, "but the real question now is what do white voters think." That's right - according to "Nightline," painful questions in the black community aren't "real."

Such denigration happens all the time, and you can tell it is rooted in bigotry because the black vote is - by any mathematical measure - crucial. Political scientist Tom Schaller notes that if Clinton had won slightly more African-American votes, she might be winning. And black turnout for Democrats could decide general elections in many key swing states. Yet, we are still told "the real question" is only what white voters think.

To Sirota, the demographics do matter; it's the emphasis and value judgments that we make from them that are all wrong.

Of course, all this talk of demographics and race ignores the role that women have played in this election, too. Run through the exit polls, and you'll see that, universally, more women than men voted for Senator Hillary Clinton. (As much as 14 percent more in, say, Massachusetts, where, despite losing the state by 15 points, Obama won the majority of male primary goers.) In an election marred by as much, if not more, misogyny than racism, the silence about women voters and issues in this election is almost as damning as the racist bullsh*t staining the talk of African-Americans.

Discuss. (Nicely.)

Jay Stevens :: Sirota on 2008 identity politics
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Speaking of Buchanan... (0.00 / 0)
He wrote a very telling article today, where he admits that "What Hillary and Begala are saying is politically incorrect, but it is also patently true." He relates how the historical aspects of the race card will play out in this year's election as only his 40 years of right-wing republican punditry can do.

His perspective concludes with this eery and ominous statement:

"Keep an eye on West Virginia. The votes Hillary gets, and the way she gets them, may provide a road map for how the GOP can hold the White House this fall, if they are not too squeamish to follow it."

This is exactly why the tone of Clinton's campaign from now to the end of the primaries is so critical. The GOP is weighing Obama's weaknesses through Clinton's parlaying of racially-tinged messages. In short, she is doing the GOP's homework for them: analysis, message construction, delivery, impact, and result. This inevitably will result in a shorter and more effective messaging cycle for the GOP.


Honestly JC (0.00 / 0)
I think if people are racist they know it. I don't think they are going to listen to a speech by Hillary, or Barack and say to themselves, "Gee that reminds me. I hate blacks" I think Obama can bring in some of those demographics. Of course it would be a lot easier with Clinton's full-throated support. She'll deliver.

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I could not more strongly disagree. (0.00 / 0)
I think if people are racist they know it.

Look at the amount of overwhelming sexism in our culture, the amount that has been casually thrown out in this campaign, and calmly tell me that people clearly recognize their own biases.  I strongly doubt that you can do that. Having spent vastly more time than any sane person should reviewing the websites and writings of the racist right, I tell you for certain that they are not 'racists' in their own minds.  They are "racialists", defending and supporting their own kind; you know, hardworking White Americans, as Clinton said.  Yo them, its not a matter of 'hating Blacks'.  It's a matter of defending 'your own kind'.  (Same rules apply to them there queers, ya' know.)  

Mathello, you are a smart man.  I'm certain that you can recognize when racism is at play, regardless of whether the racist can see it or not.


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I see your point (0.00 / 0)
But is she really at fault for saying "white Americans"? Tell you what; if she says something like this after West Virginia then I'll agree with you that she is stirring it up. Althought since we all know WV is incredibly racist she might have a point that Obama will need to bring these people in.

Please no one take this the wrong way... Obama has the support of black Americans, but does anyone really think that they will be voting for McCain over Hillary. I think she can get them out to vote. It's gotta be incredibly frustrating that she hasn't gotten more votes from them with all the work she has done in the past. After all, she is married to the first "black" President. ;-)


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Bill was not the first "black" president (0.00 / 0)
Time Magazine interviewed Toni Morrison yesterday. She was the person who is credited with coining the phrase. Except she says people took it wrong:

"Do you regret referring to Bill Clinton as the first black President?" -Justin Dews, Cambridge, Mass.

A. "People misunderstood that phrase. I was deploring the way in which President Clinton was being treated, vis-à-vis the sex scandal that was surrounding him. I said he was being treated like a black on the street, already guilty, already a perp. I have no idea what his real instincts are, in terms of race."

As to the comment on whether or not black voters would turn out for Hillary or McCain, I think that many would choose to stay home instead. She would get way more that the 8% she currently is getting, for sure, but as many as Obama? I doubt it.

Here's what House Majority Whip, Rep. James Clyburn (D-SC) had to say on this issue today:

"I'm very proud of what Barack Obama's done. When I sat in those jails back in the 60's in South Carolina - dreaming about growing up, dreaming about becoming an adult, dreaming about having children, and grandchildren - I now have a 14 year old grandson, and he is very proud of Barack Obama. I'm not going to sit down and watch anybody marginalize my grandson's dreams and aspirations. And I'm not going to see anybody go out and just absolutely nullify the energy and time that my daughter, youngest daughter, put into Barack Obama's race."


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Hmmm... (0.00 / 0)
Clyburn has his right to his opinion, but that doens't mean jack. It's on the same level that some 89 year old woman wants to volunteer for Hillary so she can have a woman be president. No one who is voting for Hillary is marginalizing anyones dreams. And vice versa. I think Hillary can get out the black vote. It's easy, "Me or McCain?" (Please note: Obama can do that with other demographics Hillary pulls in.) I'm not saying he can't do it. I'm saying she can as well and I want her.

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Do you think (0.00 / 0)
the Republicans knew none of this?  Honestly?  Not everything in the world is Hillary Clinton's fault.

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Knew none of what? (0.00 / 0)
That Buchanan would give voice to what every democrat is tippy-toe'ing around?

And who said everything in the world is Hillary Clinton's fault? She's just playing into the GOP's plan. Rove, Limbaugh, Buchanan, et al.  


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Do you think (0.00 / 0)
Republicans couldn't figure out Obama's weaknesses until Hillary Clinton came along to point them out?  

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Demographic analysis (0.00 / 0)
It surprises me how often pundits do this sort of "African-Americans have no gender, women and men are white" thing in their analysis.  

Obviously the real question is only what Obama voters think, no matter who they are.  We're hearing every day from Donna Brazille on CNN, and even from JC on this blog, that Clinton's voters are irrelevant and the Democratic Party is moving on without them.

And, I mean, who ever decided to give women and poor people the right to vote anyway?  What a crazy mistake THAT was.

 


No, I don't believe that Clinton's voters are irrelevant. (0.00 / 0)
I think that what Clinton tells us about her voters is irrelevant.  

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