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The New Voter Suppression Act

by: Matt Singer

Wed Feb 25, 2009 at 10:19:17 AM MST


Rep. Scott Sales' HB 613 is up for third reading today, having narrowly passed second reading 51-49 yesterday.

That's really too bad.

The bill is basically drafted to tighten up residency requirements for voters and public officials. That's all fine-and-dandy for people who have very clear residency situations. Especially headed into a recession where things like couch surfing, temporary residences, etc., become more common, it isn't so great for large swaths of the population.

The bill says a person may only have one residence. Cool. That's current law. The problem comes from the efforts to say certain things cannot be a residence -- a parent's house, for example, once one has reached the age of majority, with only a handful of exceptions.

Normally, I wouldn't be very concerned about a bill like this, but ever since the Montana Republicans challenged 6,000 voters on specious residency grounds last fall, my ears perked up on this bill.

Consider the case of a soldier, stationed in New Jersey, but registered at his parent's new house in Montana, where he has no permanent room, but crashes in the guest room when he returns home. Under this bill, would that soldier's vote be open to challenge? And if it was challenged on Election Day, how would he be able to respond?

Or what about a recent college graduate, working a series of temporary jobs in and out of Montana, planning to return soon to their hometown, but can't afford an apartment and has a permanent bedroom in their parent's house. This individual may be able to consider Montana their residence, unless their wife lives with them in a hotel in Waco, TX, on a 4-week stint of work, in which case El Casa del Waco becomes their residence under this law.

Any problems this reform is trying to solve are minimal. The potential implications are very far-reaching.

Update - The bill died on third reading, with all fifty Democrats opposing it and one Republican in opposition as well.

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Without having a psychic link into the minds of the legislators, I would have to say that this proposal died because of the requirements that legislators actually live in their districts.  I could well be wrong, and would be happy to be shown how.

This bill, from the get go, was an attempt at misdirection.  Now that he no longer needed to support his buddies like Koopman, Sales attempted to sell this bill on a feel good idea that we all want our legislators living in our districts (preferably next door, no doubts.)  That made little sense on it's face, considering how large some districts are. (Could a young man from Manhattan actually represent West Yellowstone?  Not likely.)  But I believe that you are correct, Matt.  This was actually aimed at voters, and painted as being about legislators.  As such, it's nice to see it die.


Probably the most dishonest posting I have seen here yet. n/t (0.00 / 0)


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Care to clarify what was dishonest about it? (0.00 / 0)
Inquiring minds want to know.

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I'm curious myself (0.00 / 0)
I try to give the benefit of the doubt to the intentions of the bill-drafters. But, last I checked, my right to vote was challenged last fall. Forgive me for being skeptical of measures that may make bullshit challenges easier.

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It was clarifying residency requirements (0.00 / 0)
So that a person could only vote once.  The language included "may" and "may not" and as such, made it so that a person who was attending school or was in the Armed forces could KEEP their Montana voting rights even as they didn't live here full time.  

At the same time, the bill language allowed for those who wanted to change that and vote where they lived.  

And I didn't see any language in there about "living in the district".  It changed very little there- just crossed out "in the Legislature" and replaced it with "public office".  

I didn't see any "voter suppression" nor could I imagine a way that it would be used as such.  If there's a problem or issue with a person's ballot, it becomes provisional and up for review.  That's law currently, and this change would not complicate that nor would it increase incidences.  

So oppose the bill, I really don't care.  It failed, and that's fine.  But let's be honest about it.

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That's the part you're wrong about, syd (0.00 / 0)
That's law currently, and this change would not complicate that nor would it increase incidences.  

It could dramatically increase instances of voter challenge, as well as legitimize the very challenges that were roundly reviled as attempted by the GOP last year.  


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You don't know that. (0.00 / 0)
Nor would you have any way to.

I believe that it would do the opposite- prevent problems and challenges.

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Syd, (0.00 / 0)
I'm not the one who claimed, and I quote:

nor would it increase incidences.  

The burden of proof is not on me, kitten.  It is on you.  And this would, quite obviously, legitimize the challenges leveled by the MT. GOP against left leaning county voters.  I notice that you haven't argued that point at all.

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I was making the point, (0.00 / 0)
that there is no way to prove ANYTHING in either direction.

Why would this target "left-leaning" voters?  Why would it "target" anyone at all?  As I said before, nothing in the bill language would indicate such a thing.


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I may be wrong, but... (0.00 / 0)
Doesn't the statewide voter registration system (SVRS) required by HAVA and implemented by Montana deal with these issues? Matt?

Massive voter fraud is a fantasy (0.00 / 0)
And I don't think that's what this bill is targeting.

Which raises the question: just what problem are we trying to solve here? We have enough real ones without trying to make up others.


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Read the bill language. (0.00 / 0)
And then my comments.  

This would codify and clarify residency.  If you are going to school, you get to pick one residence to call home (and where you can register, vote or seek office).  

It's a simple clarification.  Why go all chicken little over simple clarifications?

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Why require the clarifications? (0.00 / 0)
Where's the problem. Onus is on people seeking change. I think that's a pretty conservative philosophy I'm spouting, by the way.

As for -- are these requirements liberal or conservative? No. If someone from either party uses these rules to challenge voters, I'll be upset.


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It would seem (0.00 / 0)
That if they were trying to put clarifications through, there were issues that required it.

So, just using my imagination, if you're a student, and not sure where you're registered, or where you can register, this would clear that up.  It doesn't say you have to live there a certain amount of time, just clarifies residency.

Simple.

But really... why argue?  It didn't pass, and it doesn't really matter either way.

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