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There are -- gasp! -- radical rightwingers!

by: Jay Stevens

Tue Apr 14, 2009 at 20:22:26 PM MDT


The big buzz on the 'Tubes today is about a DHS report on the increased danger of right-wing extremists:

The Department of Homeland Security is warning law enforcement officials about a rise in "rightwing extremist activity," saying the economic recession, the election of America's first black president and the return of a few disgruntled war veterans could swell the ranks of white-power militias.

A footnote attached to the report by the Homeland Security Office of Intelligence and Analysis defines "rightwing extremism in the United States" as including not just racist or hate groups, but also groups that reject federal authority in favor of state or local authority.

"It may include groups and individuals that are dedicated to a single-issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration," the warning says.

Rightie bloggers have been apoplyeptic about the news -- Malkin's response is typical -- they claim it's a "hit job" on the right hours before their tax-day protests.

My initial reaction was two-fold. The first was, hey! I've been saying for years that right-wing extremism is a much more real and present threat than Islamic extremism. Or have we forgotten the violence latent in the anti-abortion movement? The militia movement? Timothy McVeigh? That the Bush administration and its agencies were focusing our attention on the Middle East -- and not terrorism, per se -- was a political decision. They used the specter of terrorism to further their foreign-policy objectives, not to actually combat or curb terror. Especially the rightwing domestic kind, because that's kind of embarrassing, isn't it?

Jay Stevens :: There are -- gasp! -- radical rightwingers!
From the Economist:

The official explanation is that this is meant to "facilitate a greater understanding of the phenomenon of violent radicalization in the US". That makes sense, even if some of the wording (attacking groups for "rejecting federal authority in favor of state or local authority") had led to accusations that DHS is attacking ordinary conservatives and libertarians. It's been two months since a right-wing extremist was found dead with dirty bomb material, and it's only been ten days since Richard Poplawski, a deranged conspiracy theorist in Pittsburgh, murdered three police officers. It's hard to argue that Pittsburgh cops don't deserve a lesson on what, exactly, Mr Poplawski was thinking.

The report is referring to radicals: Stormfront and other neo-Nazi groups, militia groups, etc., not your garden variety conservatives or libertarians -- although the report's wording, if taken out of context and read in bad lighting, could be interpreted as such. And the Bush administration -- not Obama's -- prepared the first drafts of this report. So the notion that this report was manufactured to discredit the US right for partisan reasons is ludicrous.

And besides, it's not exactly as if rhetoric from many conservatives corners is exactly free of the whiff of violence, is it? David Weigel, on Tea Party rhetoric:

Both promotions suggest that the Tea Parties are the start, or tipping point, of some kind of "revolution." Do I actually think the protesters want to overthrow the government? No, of course not. But if they want to use this rhetoric, they can't really be too angry when the government frets about a rising tide of violent government overthrow rhetoric. If the Tea Parties are just a bunch of harmless cosplay nonsense directed at beating Democrats in the 2010 elections, they can say so.

Dave Niewert goes even further, and accuses Malkin et al of too closely identifying with the radical extremists named in the reports. Andrew Sullivan: "Why, one wonders, would Michelle Malkin read a DHS report on fringe, far-right extremism that could lead to violence or Oklahoma-style domestic terrorism and think ... they're talking about her?"

My second reaction was, basically, f*ck 'em.

Glenn Greenwald:

It's certainly true that federal police efforts directed at domestic political movements -- even ones with a history of inspiring violence in both the distant and recent past -- require real vigilance and oversight, and it's also true that the DHS description of these groups seems excessively broad with the potential for mischief. But the political faction screeching about the dangers of the DHS is the same one that spent the last eight years vastly expanding the domestic Surveillance State and federal police powers in every area. DHS -- and the still-creepy phrase "homeland security" -- became George Bush's calling card. The Republicans won the 2002 election by demonizing those who opposed its creation. All of the enabling legislation underlying this Surveillance State -- from the Patriot Act to the Military Commissions Act, from the various FISA "reforms" to massive increases in domestic 'counter-Terrorism' programs -- are the spawns of the very right-wing movement that today is petrified that this is all being directed at them.

When you cheer on a Surveillance State, you have no grounds to complain when it turns its eyes on you. If you create a massive and wildly empowered domestic surveillance apparatus, it's going to monitor and investigate domestic political activity. That's its nature....

Indeed, thanks to the very people who are today petulantly complaining about politically-motivated federal police actions (now that they imagine it's directed at them rather than at people they dislike), the Federal Government today has the power to eavesdrop on telephone calls and read the emails of American citizens without warrants; monitor bank records without court approval; obtain all sorts of invasive personal records, medical and financial, without Subpoenas; and obtain and store a whole host of other personal information about American citizens who have not been accused, let alone convicted, of having done anything wrong. Also thanks to them (and things like the War on Terror, the War on Drugs, the Patriot Act, the FISA Amendments Act, etc. etc), most of this is carried out without any real oversight or safeguards, left entirely to the judgment and good faith of federal officials to wield these powers carefully and for proper ends. And, better still, federal officials can hide behind sweeping claims of secrecy and National Security to prevent courts from scrutinizing what they did and determine if it was illegal (we call that "the state secrets privilege").

So, yeah. I'm still p*ssed off about the federal wiretapping powers, even now under Obama. That's what got me to start blogging. And where were you then?

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Interesting... (2.00 / 2)
And the Bush administration -- not Obama's -- prepared the first drafts of this report.

Source?  


It's over. (0.00 / 1)
This tea bag nonsense is the last gasp of the racist morons in this country.  They lost, and they can't accept it.  They can't accept the fact that just because they are white, they do not automatically get to reap the special priviliges they once had. (Think I'm kidding?  Show me the pics of Black folks at these rallies.)  Now, everyone has to compete on merit and ability alone for jobs, etc. Diversity rules!  Ain't no goin' back now. They'll be tea baggin' each other until the day they die.  The country has moved on.  And it'll be a far different country than the white homeland these goobers envision long for.  A Black president is just too much for them to stand.  It'll  be the catalyst for all KINDS of goofy stuff from the nazi, racist crowd.  But it's all for naught.  It's all political theatre, and political theatre is the last desperate act of the completely disenfranchised.  Yes, the rightwing is now political theatre. A comedy!  And it's damn hilarious to watch.  Where once they were feared, they are now laughed at! The far right apparently no longer wants a seat at the table if they can't  have it all.  Well,  so be it.  I think that we can live with that!

dangerous radicals - conservatives - gasp - (0.00 / 0)
Do you actually have a copy of that summary Jay?

I do.

Here's an excerpt -

"- (U//FOUO) Returning veterans possess combat skills and experience that are
attractive to rightwing extremists. DHS/I&A is concerned that rightwing
extremists will attempt to recruit and radicalize returning veterans in order to
boost their violent capabilities."

Boy, if you come back from military service, you need to be watched, according to the Obama DHS -

Why didn't you discuss the actual summary?


Eric, can you read? (0.00 / 0)
I only ask because your quote says nothing ... NOTHING ... about watching veterans or suspecting veterans.  The noun to which the verb form "will attempt" applies is not veterans, but rather "extremists".  You've shown such difficulties in reading comprehension before, so might I suggest that you attend one this nations fine public schools.  After being trained up a bit, you will no longer make such foolish comments at these websites.  Isn't that something to look forward to?

Also, I have to ask; why are you online instead of out teabagging with your friends?


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Here you go Rob - (0.00 / 0)
I'll cut & paste this slow, since I know you don't read fast -

Another shot at veterans:

"(U//FOUO) The possible passage of new restrictions on firearms and the return of
military veterans facing significant challenges reintegrating into their communities
could lead to the potential emergence of terrorist groups or lone wolf extremists
capable of carrying out violent attacks."

Liberal interpretation from the Obama DHS- "Veterans are Dangerous"

- "(U//FOUO) Proposed imposition of firearms restrictions and weapons bans
likely would attract new members into the ranks of rightwing extremist groups,
as well as potentially spur some of them to begin planning and training for
violence against the government. The high volume of purchases and
stockpiling of weapons and ammunition by rightwing extremists in anticipation
of restrictions and bans in some parts of the country continue to be a primary
concern to law enforcement."

Liberal interpretation from the Obama DHS - "People with guns are dangerous"

"(U) A prominent civil rights organization reported in 2006 that "large numbers
of potentially violent neo-Nazis, skinheads, and other white supremacists are now
learning the art of warfare in the [U.S.] armed forces."

Liberal translation from the Obama DHS- Veterans are Nazis.

"(U//FOUO) Unlike the earlier period, the advent of the Internet and other informationage
technologies since the 1990s has given domestic extremists greater access to
information related to bomb-making, weapons training, and tactics, as well as targeting of
individuals, organizations, and facilities, potentially making extremist individuals and
groups more dangerous and the consequences of their violence more severe. New
technologies also permit domestic extremists to send and receive encrypted
communications and to network with other extremists throughout the country and abroad,
making it much more difficult for law enforcement to deter, prevent, or preempt a violent
extremist attack."

Liberal translation from the Obama DHS - People who use the internet are dangerous.

"(U//FOUO) DHS/I&A will be working with its state and local partners over the next
several months to ascertain with greater regional specificity the rise in rightwing
extremist activity in the United States, with a particular emphasis on the political,
economic, and social factors that drive rightwing extremist radicalization."

Liberal translation from the Obama DHS - Big Brother is watching. So if you own a gun, or own ammunition,or if you are a veteran, or a conservative blogger, or go to church, or hate paying taxes, you are going to be watched, because you are dangerous.


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"Americans are not the enemy. The terrorists are." (0.00 / 0)
Secretary Janet Napolitano
Department of Homeland Security
U.S. Department of Homeland Security
Washington, DC 20528

April 13, 2009

Dear Secretary Napolitano,

On behalf of the 2.6 million-member American Legion, I am stating my concern about your April 7 report, "Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence and Recruitment."

First, I want to assure you that The American Legion has long shared your concern about white supremacist and anti-government groups. In 1923, when the Ku Klux Klan still yielded unspeakable influence in this country, The American Legion passed Resolution 407. It resolved, in part, "...we consider any individual, group of individuals or organizations, which creates, or fosters racial, religious or class strife among our people, or which takes into their own hands the enforcement of law, determination of guilt, or infliction of punishment, to be un-American, a menace to our liberties, and destructive to our fundamental law..."

The best that I can say about your recent report is that it is incomplete. The report states, without any statistical evidence, "The possible passage of new restrictions on firearms and the return of military veterans facing significant challenges reintegrating into their communities could lead to the potential emergence of terrorist groups or lone wolf extremists capable of carrying out violent attacks."

The American Legion is well aware and horrified at the pain inflicted during the Oklahoma City bombing, but Timothy McVeigh was only one of more than 42 million veterans who have worn this nation's uniform during wartime. To continue to use McVeigh as an example of the stereotypical "disgruntled military veteran" is as unfair as using Osama bin Laden as the sole example of Islam.

Your report states that "Rightwing extremists were concerned during the 1990s with the perception that illegal immigrants were taking away American jobs through their willingness to work at significantly lower wages." Secretary Napolitano, this is more than a perception to those who have lost their job. Would you categorize union members as "Right Wing extremists"?

In spite of this incomplete, and, I fear, politically-biased report, The American Legion and the Department of Homeland Security share many common and crucial interests, such as the Citizen Corps and disaster preparedness. Since you are a graduate of New Mexico Girls State, I trust that you are very familiar with The American Legion. I would be happy to meet with you at a time of mutual convenience to discuss issues such as border security and the war on terrorism. I think it is important for all of us to remember that Americans are not the enemy. The terrorists are.

Sincerely,

David K. Rehbein
National Commander
The American Legion



[ Parent ]
A well crafted letter (0.00 / 0)
The only point being that NSA Napolitano would react with prudence.  You can't say she won't.  Please do so if you can. Oh wait, your teabag is shriveled in fear.  Not much use to Eric, I'm afraid.

I guess I'll just have to wait for the rational people to comment and act.


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You can't even blockquote? (0.00 / 0)
Good God in Heaven, you are lame.

Absolutely none of those quotes from the DHS doc say what you think they say.  None, Eric.  Not one.  You are simply terrified, and quite wrong.  Perhaps your confidence would improve if Rusty did the manly job of teabagging you ...


[ Parent ]
Top Dem 'dumbfounded' by 'extremism' report (0.00 / 0)
The top House Democrat overseeing the Department of Homeland Security is demanding that officials there explain how and why they wrote and released a controversial report identifying veterans as potential terrorist threats.

Rep. Bennie G. Thompson of Mississippi, chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee, said in a letter to DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano that he was "dumbfounded" such a report would be issued.

"This report appears to raise significant issues involving the privacy and civil liberties of many Americans -- including war veterans," Mr. Thompson said in the letter sent Tuesday.

Also Wednesday, Ms. Napolitano issued a statement standing by the report, which she personally had reviewed before it was issued. She insisted that DHS never would investigate based on political ideology and agreed to meet the head of the American Legion, who already had expressed anger over the report.

The Washington Times reported Tuesday that the department's Office of Intelligence and Analysis (I&A) released a report titled Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment on April 7. It identified as potential terrorist threats people who collect guns, veterans, supporters of border control, and pro-life advocates.

"I am particularly struck by the report's conclusion which states that I&A 'will be working with its state and local partners over the next several months to ascertain with greater regional specificity the rise in rightwing extremist activity in the United States with a particular emphasis on the political, economic, and social factors that drive rightwing extremist radicalization,'" Mr. Thompson said, demanding to know what types of activities DHS had planned for "the next several months."


http://www.washingtontimes.com...

A CHALLENGE! (1.50 / 2)
I am offering to pay  for a professionally performed tea bag by a hooker of your choice to any rightwing blogger who can post a pic of a tea bag party that includes one, just one, only ONE black face!  For there are none.  This isn't about taxes.  It isn't about government spending.  And it isn't about freedom.  It's about racism, pure and simple.  It's about a Black president.   And it's about a HUGE paradigm shift  in the country.  That's all.  The racists lost fair and square, and they can't  deal with it.  Hence, all the violent talk.  It's designed to emboldened the inbreds and scare the populace.  And now, I see that the gov. of texASS has declared that he might just secede.  What a friggin' joke.  As Anderson Cooper said, it's  hard to teabag and talk at the same time.  It's even harder to fight while "joined at the lip" so to speak with  your fellow traitors.

The Republicans today are only slightly more reprehensible (0.00 / 0)
than they were in 1969 after Nixon's Southern Strategy made them into the party they have been since that year.
By the same token, Democrats haven't varied much either since 1989 after slick willy, dead paul and turncoat joe convinced them to abandon the entire notion of progressive politics in favor of corporate alliances and big campaign fundings which have led to our current state of affairs...

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Actually, Larry (0.00 / 0)
I did see a picture online today of a young black man holding a sign that read "Blacks against Obama!".  It was rather jarring in that sea of white.  But my favored picture was the young man on a bike who's sign read "This sign is the only brown thing on this block".

[ Parent ]
DAMN! (0.00 / 0)
I saw it a couple'a days ago too. I was hoping that no one else would see it. Did I mention that there was a 25 dollar limit on my challenge?  Send me a reciept and the money is yours!  I didn't think anyone would have the teabags to actually CLAIM the prize.  But I knew if anyone would, it'd probably be you, Wulgar.  Well done!

[ Parent ]
OH WAIT! (4.00 / 1)
I re-read my challenge.  I said "rightwing" blogger.  Sorry, Wulfgar, you can't claim the prize.

[ Parent ]
um... (0.00 / 0)
I did see a picture online today...

I saw it a couple'a days ago too. I was hoping that no one else would see it.

You guys do realize that you can harness the power of your computers and actually save pictures, right?


[ Parent ]
Um, Rusty, (0.00 / 0)
did I mention that there's a 25 dollar limit?  Harness the power of your computer, post the reciept, and the money's all yours!  And if toe tappin'  is your  thing, you can use the 25 for that too!  I never know 'bout you righties!  Seems that to be a good rightwinger, you gotta be some sore of deviant!

[ Parent ]
A very reasoned response on your part.. (0.00 / 0)
Why do you Leftys always bring up race?  It's like you're obsessed with it or something.  Yes Larry, there are people in the world who look different than you...they're people just like you, no better, no worse.   Can't you just see people as people?

You made a blanket statement..

just one, only ONE black face!  For there are none.

I produced evidence, thus proving you wrong...now what?

I don't give a shit about your stupid little bet, I just wanted to prove how racist you really are.

Have a good weekend =)  


[ Parent ]
Moi? Not reasoned?? Racist?? (0.00 / 0)
Rusty, you cut me to the quick.  I would try to think of a witty come back, but no need really.  Wulfgar is probably already circling somewhere overhead ready to devor your post!  The guy is a regular predator for rightwing redmeat!  And he has much more patience for y'all than I  do.  Ta ta!  (Ooops!  That's not a secrect signal for something deviant too, is it?  Just checking.)

[ Parent ]
"Black man upsets tea party's racist white power structure" (0.00 / 0)
[ Parent ]
Jesus, Rutty. (0.00 / 0)
You are dumber than I had imagined.  "Bitter, gun/god clingers"?  Nope.  Just dumbasses.  You included.  But hey, get yourself that "teabag" I promised and the money is yours!

[ Parent ]
Hey, if it's all you got, FLAUNT IT! (0.00 / 0)
And your point is?  Face it, Rust.  YOU LOST!  Big time.  Get over it and move on.  So  you got a few morons  to  mill around in the cold.  Big deal.  It's simply a phallic victory.  In other words, a bunch of dickheads standin' around freezing their asses off for the cameras.  Please list a few friggin' SPECIFIC things that THAT accomplished.  You got nuthin'!  It's embarassing really.  It's what tree huggers and PETA do.  Is  that really all you got left?  You the new nazi peta?  You the new tea bag huggers? But I guess if it's all you got, it's all you got! And now you've put the country on notice that if you don't get you way, you just might hold your breath until you turn blue!  It's pretty sad, Rust.

[ Parent ]
"Spread my work ethic"? (0.00 / 0)
GET A JOB!

If parading around in the middle of the day with a bunch of malcontents and a boat load of moronic signs is an example of "work ethic", then I guess there won't be any wealth to spread around anyways...


[ Parent ]
In the GF Tribune, (0.00 / 0)
one of the morons said that they were there to "oust Obama".  How does Rust justify this kind of talk?  Time for these folks to leave America.  I would suggest Latin America.  There's still is lots of vestigal fascism down there.  They would fit right in!  These guys are little pinhead Pinochet wannabees.  Thank god they don't have the teabags to actually act.  They'd end up in jail!  And then, their teabaggin' would come in handy as a survival tool!

[ Parent ]
Wow (0.00 / 0)
That's at least a couple hundred folk.  I seriously doubt the 500 claim, but still, good on ya.  It's cute to see the serfs honoring the will of the lordlings.  I'm still not impressed that they did there teabagging biz and went home exactly at their allotted time of 2:00.  That doesn't speak well of commitment to cause, but ... whatever.

What I'm totally curious about, Rusty, is that you and others have claimed this event a huge success.  Really?  Exactly what have you accomplished, Rusty?  According to Ann Coulter, (and that total extremist head case Mike Comstock) your point was to remove Obama from office. Did you do that? How about lowering taxes?  Any success?  (Oh wait, Obama is doing that without you.)  How about decreased spending?  Any luck?  Seriously, Rusty, how does a good conservative soldier (only in the figurative sense, no doubts) such as yourself rate "success"?


[ Parent ]
That's it? (0.00 / 1)
That's all you've got?

Wow.  Just wow.


[ Parent ]
Yes, Rusty (0.00 / 0)
Questioning how you could be so idiotic in your claims is 'all I've got'.

[ Parent ]
Had a crowd like that showed up in Missoula (0.00 / 0)
it would have been noteworthy; but in Bozeman..?

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