Richard Cohen rushes to Dick Cheney's defense today, wondering, you know, what if torture really works?
Blogger Alert: I have written a column in defense of Dick Cheney. I know how upsetting this will be to some Cheney critics, and I count myself as one, who think -- in respectful paraphrase of what Mary McCarthy said about Lillian Hellman -- that everything he says is a lie, including the ands and the thes. Yet I have to wonder whether what he is saying now is the truth -- i.e., torture works.
In some sense, this is an arcane point since the United States insists it will not torture anymore -- not that, the Bush people quickly add, it ever did. Torture is a moral abomination, and President Obama is right to restate American opposition to it. But where I reserve a soupçon of doubt is over the question of whether "enhanced interrogation techniques" actually work. That they do not is a matter of absolute conviction among those on the political left, who seem to think that the CIA tortured suspected terrorists just for the hell of it.
Nice rhetorical trick there, eh? Call into question a fact by alluding to the "absolute conviction" of liberals, and, wow! Suddenly it's no longer a fact, even if it is supported by tons of evidence! But, folks, torture does not work as an interrogation tool.
But there are other uses of terror! Andrew Sullivan:
Looked at from a distance, the Bush administration wanted to do two things at once: to declare to the world that freedom is on the march, and human rights are coming to the world with American help, while simultaneously declaring to captives that the US has no interest in the law, human rights, accountability, transparency or humanity. They wanted to give hope to all the oppressed of the planet, while surgically banishing all hope from the prisoners they captured and tortured. And the only way they could pull this off is by the total secrecy they constructed and defended. So we had a public government respectful of the rule of law, and a secret government whose main goal was persuading terror suspects that there was no rule of law at all. It is hard to convey just how dangerous this was and is.
That is, if there's anything the Bush administration was obsessed with, it was the projection of power. And didn't the Bush administration use torture to get "evidence" of al Qaeda's link to Iraq? So yeah, Cheney probably does think torture works. But not in the way Cohen means... |