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Dennis Rehberg: Raising the Specter of Socialism

by: Matt Singer

Fri Jun 05, 2009 at 15:20:54 PM MST


Well, this is good to see. Rep. Rehberg's letters to constituents are a bit more honest about his views on health care than his public utterances. Here he is rambling about socialized medicine:
Thank you for contacting me regarding health insurance.  It's good to hear from you.

As you know, a lot has been made recently of the benefits of socialized medicine.  Critics of the current U.S. system of joint public and private insurance point to Canada or Europe for models of how we ought to run our system.  The need is the overwhelming number of 46 million uninsured Americans with no access to healthcare.

Roughly 46 million Americans lack healthcare coverage.  However, this number requires a closer examination.  According to the 2006 US census data, 250 million Americans either enroll in public health insurance plans such as CHIP or Medicaid or have private coverage.  Of the 46 million uninsured, 11.4 million individuals are in families making less than the poverty level and are eligible for public assistance, but have chosen not to enroll.  Another 18 million are in their twenties. This younger group tends to be healthier and thus some of these individuals may choose to forgo spending money on insurance in favor of other things.  Roughly nine million are in families making over $75,000 a year.  Most telling is that of the 46 million, around 21 million will be uninsured for longer than a year.

The scope of the problem is how to insure the group of 8 million individuals who make less than $50,000 a year, but more than their state's threshold to qualify for assistance through Medicaid or similar programs.  This can be accomplished through a series of coordinated federal and state initiatives.  On the federal level, I have long advocated for the passage of Small Business Health Plan legislation.  Such plans would allow small businesses to band together to form a larger insurance pool and negotiate lower rates.  With 18 million uninsured working Americans employed by companies with fewer than 25 employees, this legislation would be a big help.

Additionally, we need to work to break down costly insurance mandates.  In Montana, the cost of all state and federal mandates is $21.22 per person per month for a typical family of four.  Some of these mandates serve legitimate medical concerns, but the overall cost is a burden on middle class families trying to get even minimal coverage.

What we must avoid is being overwhelmed by the complexity of the problem and resort to government run, single-payer healthcare.  A quick comparison between Great Britain's National Health Service (NHS) and the U.S. system shows the problems and inadequacies of government run healthcare.  Right now, 1 million Britons are on waiting lists for procedures, and another 100,000 operations are cancelled yearly due to various staff and equipment deficiencies.  New technologies offer many advances in the medical field, yet because of its government run structure, the NHS cannot take advantage.  For instance, while the U.S. has 13 computed tomography (CAT) scanners per million people, Great Briton has half of that.  This results in a wait time of over a month for what in the U.S. is a routine imaging service.  The most telling number is that a majority of NHS workers would not want to receive treatment in the system.

America offers the highest quality care in the world.  Rest assured that I will work to make sure everyone has access to that care.  The U.S. system needs reform. But those changes can be made without relying on bureaucrats to make our healthcare decisions for us.  Healthcare should be between a patient and his or her physician, not between a patient, doctor, and a low-level bureaucrat in D.C.

Thanks again for contacting me.  For further information or to sign up for my e-newsletter, please visit my website at www.house.gov/rehberg. Keep in touch.

That last sentence strikes me as an invitation.
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it's amazing how simular both Max and Dennis are on this issue. (0.00 / 0)
They both fear the better quality and cheaper cost of the universal coverage systems from foreign countries.

Health Care Industrial Complex whores to the bone, the both of them.

I agree completely. Max is no more and no less of a whore than is Rehberg.

I missed you at the rally today, Matt.

200+ grassroots citizens. Entirely volunteers, and self organized volunteers at that. No paid staff putting it together.

It was amazing. You really missed it.


Now I know your mutant power! (0.00 / 0)
They both fear the better quality and cheaper cost of the universal coverage systems from foreign countries.

You understand with absolute empathy the emotions of others.  Damn, that's a really cool mutant power. I envy you, bud.

I agree completely.

Wow, You are amazing!  You even agree with something that Matt never wrote but clearly meant!  That is awesome!

Steve, stick to the point of the fracking post.  Otherwise, you're going to seem really comical, kinda like you do here.  If you have a personal issue with Matt, email would be the preferred venue.  You really don't need to subject the rest of us to your ego.  Just sayin' ...  


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HE'S JOE THE SHEEPHERDER! (0.00 / 1)
Dopey Rheburp STILL doesn't get.  I'll stand in line. GLADLY!  I  just want some friggin' HEALTH CARE, Dopey! A little wait in line is NUTHIN' compared  to no health care at all! You see, Dopey, you're a bullsh*tter, and so am I.  And you know what they say, Dopey.  It's true.  You CAN'T bullsh*t a bullsh*tter!  At least not in Montana.  We're too close to Canada, Dopey.  We have too many relatives up there.  And guess what, Dopey.  THEY LOVE THEIR HEALTH CARE!  Try your half-assed argument on someone else, you moron.  And your figures?  Where'd you pull those, outta your arse?!  Again, Dopey.  Canadian care is better than NO care at all!  Oh, and Dopey, here's ANOTHER little statistic for a moron like you.  Sixty-two percent of the bankruptcies in this country are a result of medical problems.  And here's the kicker.  Seventy-EIGHT percent of those folks had medical insurance!  It just ain't workin', Dopey.  How's your kidney's, boy?  I hope they fail!

But both Dennis and Max say Americans don't want single payer. A person from another (0.00 / 0)
culture might think they were allies from the same party.

Ok, I think we've established that both Max and Rehberg are out of touch and wrong.

So what's our next move?


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You are the leader (0.00 / 0)
Why don't you tell us?

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Well (0.00 / 0)
As long as we've established you're right, the next move seems obvious.

Smug, condescending refusal to engage anyone who doesn't tow the party line.  Dehumanize the opposition, criminalize their differing ideas and weed them out by mobilizing the ignorant masses with the rhetoric of fear.

Global Warming is an excellent model for this.


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Global warming? Ha. My master stroke was organic gardening. Don't panic (0.00 / 0)
Eat organic!


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wait a minute... (0.00 / 0)
...isn't that the GOP handbook? I mean, seriously, you just described Rehberg's letter to a "t."

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Actually (0.00 / 0)
I think that letter may be the most intelligent thing posted at LITW for quite some time.  Matt, you're getting lazy.  Posting a cogent, articulate letter from the opposition as if it speaks for itself works for a home crowd - and that's what the 30 or so readers you've got left are - but it doesn't actually make you right by fiat.

You can mock all you want, but Rehberg speaks for more Montanans than you think.  Might want to get out of Missoula and read something other than MT Democrat Talkers.


MTSentinel (0.00 / 0)
Rehberg opens his mouth, but nothing comes out...

The "Small Business Health Plan" is a joke...there is nothing in that legislation to control costs...there is nothing in that plan that would provide ACCESS to the "highest quality" care in the world...

As a former small business owner, that tried to provide insurance for his employees, I can tell you the private insurance industry is NOT "business friendly".  The cost of a single policy was rising 25-35% a year...that led to purchasing plans with higher deductibles, more out of pocket costs, buying plans that would drop certain covered services when the policy was up for renewal (sorry, you no longer have prescription drug coverage) ETC. ETC...and eventually I could no longer afford to provide insurance for my employees...

Nothing in what Rehberg says in his letter will alter the piss poor system we currently have...He is being less than honest when he compares single payer with the UK system...single payer is publicly paid for...privately operated health care...the UK system is publicly paid for and publicly operated health care... hopefully most Montanans are smart enough to see through his rants about "socialized" health care for what they are...cheer leading for the blood sucking, money grubbing health insurance industry.


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Oh come ON, dink. (0.00 / 0)
Please list the names of five Canadians dissatisfied with their health care that you know!  Look, dink, if MOST Americans WANT govt. run health care, WHAT'S WRONG WITH THAT?  You can still pay lots of money for what you get, 'cause you're real stupid.  Hey, we don't care.  We simply want to take the profit out of our health care for the insurance industry.  Nuthin' wrong with that!  BTW, do you even KNOW anyone on Medicare?  Don't have elderly parents or relatives, do ya?  It works like a charm, dink.  No waits, etc.  We can ALL have a similar system!  And you can continue to support a corrupt system!  You're a good little dink doin' your share to help keep the insurance folks employed.  You can pat yourself on the ass for that!

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Rehberg is way off (0.00 / 0)
base comparing the UK system and our current for profit, private system...because they are not even remotely similar. In the UK health care IS essentially socialized medicine...the doctors, the hospitals, etc. are for the most part government owned, and operated...

NOBODY in the US is advocating for a system where the doctors and the hospitals are owned and operated by the government...what has been proposed, whether it's Single Payer, or a strong Public Option, the doctors and the hospitals would remain private...

Why can't Rehberg be honest when he talks health care?


Oh..one more thing (0.00 / 0)
Rehberg says rest assured he will make sure all Montanans have ACCESS to the highest quality care in the world...

Access?????  Yeah...St. Pats is right down the street and their door is always open...so I guess I can ACCESS that care.  But paying for it is another matter...


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Access is as close as your nearest ER. (0.00 / 0)
That's Bush's republican solution for access:

"People have access to health care in America. After all, just go to an emergency room."


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