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WTF, Bozeman?

by: Matt Singer

Thu Jun 18, 2009 at 09:37:23 AM MST


I think Bozeman needs to seriously rethink their hiring practices to have more respect for privacy:
"Please list any and all, current personal or business websites, web pages or memberships on any Internet-based chat rooms, social clubs or forums, to include, but not limited to: Facebook, Google, Yahoo, YouTube.com, MySpace, etc.," the City form states.
Um, Google and Yahoo (and to a lesser extent Facebook and MySpace) means giving access to potentially years of personal email correspondence.

That's obviously the biggest red flag, but the idea that any employer -- public or private sector -- should be able to not just witness your personal online accounts (which include information like religion, sexual orientation, etc., that could trigger discrimination) but access them as a user -- completely messed up.

And I'm no lawyer, but this strikes me as violating the Montana Constitution's privacy protections big time.

In short: BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

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Just another reason (0.00 / 0)
why anonymous blogging and email accounts is paramount for anyone wanting to retain any privacy online. Otherwise, you're just walking around with your pants down. Fine if you've got nothing to hide, and don't care about anything you may have said. But privacy laws have a long ways to go to catch up. And the Montana Constitution was written before the word "email" was even coined. A lot of untraveled legal terrain yet to be traversed.

And for personal email and websites, owning your own servers is soooooooo nice. ;-) And private!


really disconcerting (0.00 / 0)
I really don't understand who is calling the shots on this one and why they think this is appropriate at all. Perhaps there is a generational divide as to what social networking sites actually are, but it's no excuse. Not only is this incredibly invasive, but if they follow through with it there is going to most-likely be a large number of younger applicants who reconsider applying because of concerns over their own privacy, which will reduce the qualified applicant pool.
There seems to be some serious concerns of privacy coming from Bozeman city government, as the traffic light cameras have also demonstrated.
Just dumb.

It is just dumb Derf (0.00 / 0)
and you're right, it will drive away qualified young applicants. Two more points.

One, it reminds me of the bullsh*t argument supporting government surveillance that says if you don't have anything to hide you shouldn't be concerned about invasions of privacy.

Two, it's a wake up call to teens and twentysomethings (as if they needed one) that facebook is no place to hang your dirty laundry. It's the public domain pure and simple.  


Several thoughts. (0.00 / 0)
No one has ever removed his or her name from consideration for a job due to the request, Sullivan added.

People lie.  That's the part of this that is absolutely the most humorous.  Here the city is thinking that they're getting the most moral and virtuous employees, when they've just given folk the perfect opportunity and excuse to LIE.

I have to wonder why the author of this article didn't ask Greg Sullivan for real facts.  Who established this requirement?  Was it Kukulski? Was it the city commission?  Somebody has to be responsible for this requirement?  It seems rather difficult to believe that a story can explore the legality of a requirement without ever trying to suss out who required it in the first place.

This requirement is one of the most wasteful I think I've ever heard of.  It would take literally days to thoroughly research my online background, even if I provided log ins and passwords.  Even your average person in this modern world would require hours spent surfing the tubes.  Who gets paid to do this surf, and can I have that job?  This is waste of the highest order.  In the never ending Ouroboros that is the tea party movement, one might think they'd a have a piece or two to say about this junk.

Does anybody bother to track one's online activity once they have the job with the city?  has this same requirement been made of all city workers, even if they started before this requirement magically appeared out of no where?  If the city is looking for moral people, isn't it incumbent on the city to make certain they remain 'moral'?  Isn't this the most self defeating bullshit you've ever heard of?

Finally, I guess it's pretty clear that I'll never end up with a job for the city.  I'm too damned easy just to Google.


Really Bozo (0.00 / 0)
Some human resources types think if you can make people pee into a bottle for a job, you can make them do anything...
Bozeman better be ready for a slew of lawsuits, especially after Boing Boing reported it:
http://www.boingboing.net/2009...
Also, the applications for public jobs are probably public documents and thus open for public review under freedom of access law.

sullivan's my pick for legal work.... (0.00 / 0)
when i'm needing a brief written and my life is on the line....brilliant....gotta have a guinness now.

United we stand, divided we fall.

power to the polite people!


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