Public option favored by Montanans

one frustrating thing about this (0.00 / 0)

is that while we are over here mounting a goal line stand against the delay tactics of the bauc-ubus which is sucking the life (and entusiasm) out of backing any health care reform, hard right wing lou dobbs discovers....hey- this single payer thing looks like a good deal after all.

http://codycodester.blogspot.c...

if the wright brothers tried to fly a plane the way that worm-farm bunch of policy wonks in washington are assembling the health care reform, it would have wings too short to support it and no engine. keeerist! what a bunch of morons!

my advice- fire the whole god damned unimaginitive boring and wan yuppie staff, including messina and rahm and let's start over and get some people who actually possess common sense.

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by: problembear @ Sat Aug 22, 2009 at 18:21:56 PM UTC

wouldn't that be nice? (0.00 / 0)

but probably if we don't get something done now, and something good, it'll be another 15 years. the victors write the history. failure of HC reform would probably result in GOP retaking House...that would effectively end HC reform as we know it.

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by: Jay Stevens @ Sat Aug 22, 2009 at 19:49:20 PM UTC

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Whereas ... (0.00 / 0)

Democratic takeover of House, Senate and Presidency has produced .... health care whaaaa?

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by: Mark t @ Sat Aug 22, 2009 at 20:12:49 PM UTC

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No it wouldn't end health care reform as we know it. Medicare part D and the "mini public option " (0.00 / 0)

/insurance company give away are birds of a feather.

The problem is that the White House and the blue Dogs and their allies, the insurance industry, doesn't want any public option at all.

If we get one, it will be the mini one already in HR3200 which does absolutely nothing.

Here's the wikipedia entry on conference committees. Read it and tell me if you think there is any chance we might trade up in conference.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U...

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by: Steve W. @ Sat Aug 22, 2009 at 22:48:49 PM UTC

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i hope your goal line stand for public option works jay (0.00 / 0)

i think there is an answer wave coming from the progressives to push back on the tea-baggers. the question is; are the policy wonks even listening to us?

or is this the typical bureaucratic approach the forest service invented back in the seventies; if both sides are angry we must be doing it right approach.

in any regard senator bauc-ubus seems completely deaf at this point. and like you say, this weak sort of change to health care reform approach will spell the doom of progressive politics for the next election as american politics just cedes the field to whoever is yelling the loudest.

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by: problembear @ Sat Aug 22, 2009 at 20:09:24 PM UTC

Well, the 60 votes thing... (0.00 / 0)

Kennedy may not be a shoo-in for the 60th vote. He's looking for ways for the Massachusetts gov to appoint an interim successor to him:

Kennedy, who has brain cancer, wrote that he believes "it is vital for this commonwealth to have two voices speaking for the needs of its citizens and two votes in the Senate during the approximately five months between a vacancy and an election."

I'm glad he's thinking ahead. But he also is signaling the precarious place he is in. I don't think Kennedy wants his coda to be his (or an immediate successor's) inability to vote to break a filibuster, and being responsible for the failure of health care reform '09.

And I'm sure the republicans, as morbid as they may be, realize that the longer they can string out the process, the less likely there will be a 60th vote.

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by: JC @ Sat Aug 22, 2009 at 21:13:02 PM UTC

Just wanna make sure I'm tracking correctly... (0.00 / 1)

A Rasmussen poll is biased, but one commissioned by The DailyKos isn't?  riiiiiiiiight.

You kids keep fighting real hard, I'm sure you'll get your way soon enough! LULZ

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by: Rusty Shackleford @ Mon Aug 24, 2009 at 02:50:14 AM UTC

~sigh~ (0.00 / 0)

Ignorance is unbecoming, Rusted.  Rasmussen performs polls.  They control the queries, the subjects and the data.  Kos commissions polls from Research 2000.  Markos controls neither the queries or the data, only the subjects, and those are consistently and all 3 are consistently and expressly presented.

Don't be so goddamned dense.

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by: Rob Kailey @ Mon Aug 24, 2009 at 22:20:53 PM UTC

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