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"...an act of terrorism..."

by: Jay Stevens

Mon Sep 28, 2009 at 05:27:11 AM MST


Kathy Kattenburg explains better than me why motive is irrelevant in the Sparkman murder:

Now, these details still do not tell us whether Starkman was killed because he was a Census worker, or whether he was killed because, in the course of doing his Census work, he happened to come upon an illegal activity. But they do make it crystal clear that Starkman's killers wanted him to be found like that. Which means - obviously - that this was a message killing. It was a political statement - an act of terrorism....

It's irrelevant whether Sparkman's murderer(s) were meth dealers or government-haters. Either way, Bill Sparkman was killed because he was, as the message on his body crudely proclaimed, a "fed." And whether his killers were fans of Rush Limbaugh or Glenn Beck, or not; whether they knew that a member of Congress had declared her proud intention to violate federal law and encouraged others to do so, or not; whether they had picked up on the Republican Party's many, many anti-government "hate minutes," or not, does not mitigate the dangerous and irresponsible game that conservative public figures, lawmakers, and prominent bloggers/pundits are playing when they go beyond criticizing specific political figures or particular political viewpoints, and start to attack government itself, along with the very notion of public service. Public discourse is increasingly shaped by the voices of those we elected to make government work for us - all of us - refusing to support the public process they swore to uphold, and actually making it their task to destroy government from within, to tear it down and put it down and have us believe that good government is a joke and government institutions a source of evil and danger, such that violating the law is an act of patriotism. And when they do this, they are responsible - for implicitly condoning and encouraging hatred, for stirring the embers and for fanning the flames and for the "unintended" and "unfortunate" consequences when, as flames do, they burn out of control - for being, in Natalie Cole's exquisite words, "silver tongues bearing fruit from poison lies."

In short, those that spent their rainy-day savings to send Robert Stacy McCain to Kentucky to prove - what, exactly? Sparkman's killers love their government? don't watch Glenn Beck? - have wasted their money.

Update: Unbelievable. From the same folks who froth at the mouth about jumping to conclusions, etc & co. Completely classless and disrespectful.

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also... (0.00 / 1)
so it's pretty much impossible to argue with the left apparently...

if he listened to beck and murdered the census worker, well it's the atmosphere of evil talk radio.

if he didn't listen to beck and murdered the census worker, well it's the atmosphere of evil talk radio...

can someone just even try to comprehend why in a reasonable, logical way those two arguments don't BOTH work?  


Hm... (0.00 / 0)
...need a map?

The positioning of the body was an obvious political message. "Terrorism" is an act of political violence. Whether he was killed for stumbling on a meth lab or by a Beck-addled Teabagger, a statement was made. A threat.

Take it out of context. Say I kill a chicken from my backyard for dinner, but I save the blood so I can smear it on the door of someone I didn't like. That's a threat, too.

Get it?


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you've still only got speculation (0.00 / 0)
You don't know the motive for the killing.  The FBI hasn't even ruled out suicide in this case.  The details in this case have changed many times since the initial report.  First he was hanged, then his feet were touching the ground.  Now an eyewitness says he was bound in duct tape and nude with his badge on his neck, then his forehead...

Since the police haven't even been able to rule out suicide, could you spare me the arm chair detective lectures on "terrorism" and "political violence."  If you want to go down that road I could easily provide you about a dozen examples where "political violence" and "hate crimes" turned out to be elaborate setups by the victims themselves.  


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Give me a break (0.00 / 0)
The FBI hasn't even ruled out suicide in this case.

They haven't ruled out alien experimentation either.  Could it be that?  It would be irresponsible not to ask ...

If you want to go down that road I could easily provide you about a dozen examples where "political violence" and "hate crimes" turned out to be elaborate setups by the victims themselves.  

Yeah, that could certainly be the case here.  He duct taped himself up and hung til dead just to give a blackeye to teabagger Kentuckians. That's certainly possible.

Dude, you are a total dumbass.


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Not terrorism, but suicide (0.00 / 0)
according to authorities.  http://www.kentucky.com/latest...

Tuesday, Nov. 24, 2009

Census worker killed himself, tried to make it look like homicide, officials say
By Bill Estep - Herald-Leader Staff Writer

FRANKFORT - A U.S. Census worker found dead in a secluded Clay County cemetery killed himself but tried to make the death look like a homicide, authorities have concluded.

Bill Sparkman, 51, of London, might have tried to cover the manner of his death to preserve payments under two life-insurance polices that he had taken out. The policies wouldn't pay off if Sparkman committed suicide, state police Capt. Lisa Rudzinski said.

"We believe it was an intentional act on his part to take his own life," said Rudzinski, who helped lead the investigation.



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hmmmm... (0.00 / 0)
hey, tadamsmt...is that birther Orley Taitz a nut job or not? Or are you suggesting that she is right?

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what (0.00 / 0)
are you talking about???

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Watch your phrasing, kitten (0.00 / 0)
There is nothing logically inconsistent in Jay's exposition.

if he (they) listened to Beck and murdered the census worker, well the atmosphere of evil talk radio could have contributed, and likely did.

if he (they) didn't listen to Beck and murdered the census worker, well the atmosphere of evil talk radio could have contributed.  

Try this:

Motives to commit violence often include accepting incentives from those who agree with the views of the perpetrator of violence.

Talk radio often agrees with the views of the perpetrators of violence.

Therefore, motives to commit violence often include accepting incentives from talk radio.

Logic, cupcake.  Did you learn it?


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As per T Adam's lament (0.00 / 0)
I just want to know if he had a backwards B scrawled into his cheek with a butter knife.

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