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The public option is popular!

by: Jay Stevens

Mon Oct 19, 2009 at 15:26:12 PM MST


I mean, we all knew this, didn't we?

...a new Washington Post-ABC News poll shows that support for a government-run health plan to compete with private insurers has rebounded from its summertime lows and now wins clear majority support from the public....

On the issue that has been a flash point in the national debate, 57 percent of all Americans now favor a public insurance option, while 40 percent are opposed. Support has risen since mid-August, when a bare majority, 52 percent, said they favored it. (In a June Post-ABC poll, support had been at 62 percent.)

Additionally, 56 percent favor an insurance mandate. A full 71 percent favored the mandate -- including a majority of Republicans -- if government subsidies were available for "lower-income families."

Unbelievable that any conversation in Congress wouldn't include a public option.

One of the more interesting numbers from the poll shows that Democratic support for Obama dropped 15 points since mid-September. Essentially, it appears that if numbers are dropping about healthcare reform as it stands in Congress, the wavering is coming from the left, not independents or conservatives.

In short, if Democrats really want to lose a lot of House seats in 2010, they should ditch the public option.

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right wing nuts everywhere must be hunched in their capes... (0.00 / 0)
curling their handlebar mustaches and hissing..."curses"

That's a good allusion (0.00 / 0)
since at best, our Democratic leaders in the Senate are about as competent as Dudley Do-Right.  Let's just hope either Nell (Pelosi?) or Horse (hmm...) are able to save the day.

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Wrong again Jay - (0.00 / 0)

Just 42 percent of voters support Democrats' health care reform plans even though a majority wants Congress to pass some version of reform, according to a new poll released Monday.

The Rasmussen survey shows 54 percent is opposed to the plans backed by President Obama and Democrats in Congress. The percentage of voters supporting the proposals is down 2 points from the previous week and down 4 points from the week before that.

As I'm hunched in my cape, I'm examining legitimate figures problembear -


the numbers... (0.00 / 0)
...show that the slump in support for reform is coming from the left. In short, you're celebrating the fact that this reform push is too conservative for Americans.

Attach a strong, widely available public option to this bill, along with strong subsidies for those that can't afford health care, and support shoots up to 70 percent.


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And don't expect Rasmussen (0.00 / 0)
to poll accurately that slump in support from the left. Much better to lump left wing criticism of reform with the right to beef up the naysayers trumpet.

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Asking people if they are in favor (0.00 / 0)
of the nebulous Public Option without defining what it is,how it works, and who may avail themselves of it, is sorta like asking people if they are in favor of world peace.  The devil is in the details.

Here is the Public Option question from the poll:  http://www.pollster.com/blogs/...

"Would you support or oppose having the government create a new health insurance plan to compete with private health insurance plans?
57% Support, 40% Oppose"

I'll bet people are in favor of ending world hunger too.


we may not... (0.00 / 0)
...be able to end world hunger, but we sure can create a public option.

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Until it's defined it is meaningless (0.00 / 0)
Now as to the specific poll question, it is my opinion that people were responding to having competition for the insurers, not specifically having an undefined public option. People understand what competition is, no one knows yet what the Public Option will look like.

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But they know what a public option is not (0.00 / 0)
And it is not just another insurance corporation doing the same old same old.

Look at GroupHealth in Washington. It is one of the models that the co-option idea is built around. It operates no differently than any other traditional insurance company.

The public option, as weak as it may end up being, is seen as an alternative to a system of health care that has failed millions. Not having a public option will be seen by millions as a failure of Congress and the administration to act in the public interest. And yes it is symbolic, as hollow as that may sound.

Even better, would be to break the unsurance industry's monopoly power in addition to a PO.


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