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2009 election results analyzed...

by: Jay Stevens

Wed Nov 04, 2009 at 09:14:03 AM MST


The best analysis of the outcome of yesterday's election comes from - of course - Nate Silver, who crunches the numbers on each of the results of the major issues and elections that politicos were following. Be sure to read the analysis, but in short, there's not much we can take away from these results.

In Maine, gay marriage lost out by a narrow margin; in Washington, gay rights look like they'll be affirmed in a strengthened domestic partnership law. Republicans won gubernatorial races in Virginia and New Jersey - but lost a House race that was supposed to be a bellwether on the Obama presidency  and Congressional Democrats.

Some folks are rushing to make sweeping conclusions from these races about national trends - Cillizza, for example, notes that independents flocked to the New Jersey and Virginia Republican gubernatorial candidates,  but ignores the fact that most of them still approve of, and like, president Obama. Essentially, as Silver demonstrates, most of the results seem to be based on local politics - that's as true for NY-23 as it is NJ-GOV or the outcome for gay marriage in Maine.

But I do think there are some things to look at in these elections. For one, Democratic turnout was low - although not a factor - in Virginia, for one. Also, voters (especially independents) are no longer voting against Republicans - which you could argue they were doing in the Democratic sweeps of 2006 and 2008. Those elections were, in part, a forceful rejection of Republican policies. But now Democrats comprise the incumbent majority in federal government; any ills or unhappiness the electorate experiences will work against them. Still, there's no sign any of yesterday's results was an indication that voters are opting either for the Republican brand, or against the Democratic brand.

Whatever. Even if healthcare reform had gone swimmingly, and we had something bold and real in Congress, I don't think the results would be any different. Maybe there would have been more Democratic turnout, but it probably wouldn't have made much of a difference. But I do think abandoning Democratic principles will pose a real danger to Democratic electoral chances in 2010.

That said, I do think DC-based Democratic strategists are going to look at these races, see scattering independents, and urge their candidates to again tack rightward. This may not affect healthcare reform - though I wouldn't be surprised to see another push to drop the public option, such as it is - but it may be enough to down cap-and-trade, where many of the most conservative Democrats are from coal and oil states. (See Max Baucus' recent statements on cap-and-trade.) That's par for the course for elected politicos, who prefer to act cautiously and minimize risks than to act boldly and fight to win and re-win their seats.

In short Congressional Democrats - as usual? - will do the exact opposite of what they should do.

One way to mitigate this probable rightward shift is threaten primaries in key districts....

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i tend to agree with your analysis of the analysis for the most part. The only thing I would diverge (0.00 / 0)
or quibble with is that Dems will tack right ward as an election strategy because they feel they need to in order to get re-elected.

I assume that most Dem who do tack rightward will tack rightward because they feel this gives them cover to do so, and that's what they want to do, not that they need to do it to be re-elected.

As evidence, i would point to the Blue Dogs and the Public Option. Even though the PO is quite popular in their districts, they like to pretend that the public is against it.

Max Baucus was quite fond of repeating the lie that Americans are opposed to single payer, until he got his ass kicked from one side of the state to the other by single payer proponents last Spring. He doesn't say that anymore, but he still isn't going to give the public what they want just because they want it. His corporate fund raising comes first.



Truman said something like ... (0.00 / 0)
give people a choice between a Democrat who acts like a Republican and a Republican, and they will vote for the Republican every time.

That's what happened in Virginia.

Anyway, I fail to see the importance of losing Democratic office holders given what they have done while in office.  


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Uhmm, Mark? (0.00 / 0)
Hate to break it to you, buddy, but the two national offices that were up for grabs went to the Democrats.  Sorry; I feel your pain.

Hehehe


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Ahem ... (0.00 / 0)
Wulfy - Dems lost Virginia and New Jersey governorships, and did I not use the word "Virginia" up above? Am I seeing things? Am I in the cups?

And this is delicious - in Virginia, Deeds ran like a Republican, and in NJ, Corzine is an ex-Goldman man. Keep offering us choices like that, and we'll all be Republicans or Greens. Who needs you?


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Excuse me? (0.00 / 0)
I don't remember running in either of those races. Perhaps you could enlighten me?

~kookoo~  


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Learn the meaning of "generic" ... (0.00 / 0)
It's a good word, three syllables. It might trouble you at first, but you'll adapt, perhaps move on to more syllables.  

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And you should learn (0.00 / 0)
that use of the second person referral when speaking in the generic is the sign of a poor communicator. Writing or speaking in the general might trouble you at first, but you're delusional, you won't adapt, and you will continue to be a socially repugnant because of it.

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I write gooder than you (0.00 / 1)
Your writing is tedious.  

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Too funny - (0.00 / 0)

I analyzed it last night - President Obama and the Dems got jap-slapped by the voters.

Any Dems in conservative districts are shaking in their boots today at the thought of having to follow Pelosi over the cliff by voting for a bad health care bill.

President Obama made three campaign tours for Corzine, the last one was Saturday - where's the Messiahs star power when it counts ?'


"...in conservative districts..."? (0.00 / 0)
Like NY-23, which hasn't had a Dem rep since the 1800s?

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also too funny - (0.00 / 0)

Yup - the district where the GOP candidate pulled out -

just part of the process of getting rid of the RINO's -

you'll see some more gone in Montana next election cycle again too -

Are you afraid to discuss the failure of Obama to come through ? (I'm not)


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As I see it, Obama got two more votes for his Republican health reform bill.last night. (0.00 / 0)
How do you see it Eric?

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How do I see it ? (0.00 / 0)

Public option dead - if they pass a bill, just to say they accomplished something, to save face for President Obama it will not be a Govt. takeover bill - it'll be a handout.

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Well done, Eric. (0.00 / 0)
You and Steve are simpatico here.  It's so nice to see people agree.

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The guy is right, you know ... (0.00 / 0)
He nailed it exactly except that he probably doesn't grasp who is on the receiving end of the handout.  

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Yes, but we disagree on who the handout is for. (0.00 / 0)
The bill is a national benefit concert/bake sale for the people of this country, and long lasting structural change for the insurance industry that should keep them fat and happy for decades to come, long after the money is gone for the people.

It's the reason why the insurance industry signed on to this "reform" from the start.

Also, the Public Option was never intended to be passed. It was always just a way to raise money and give people the sense that they were involved in a campaign, to give them a cause to belong to. And it was a way to divert people from what the insurance companies really fear; That a state will pass a single payer bill.


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So the state option is really dead? (0.00 / 0)
I heard that Kucinich was trying to revive it.

In the end, that was the guts of the matter. We really, really got stuffed.  


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