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Taking One for the Boss

by: Matt Singer

Thu Dec 10, 2009 at 11:30:48 AM MST


I've been on the road for what feels like forever, but I checked in to find Montana editorials absolutely up in arms about the Baucus-Hanes story. So let me say a few things:
  1. I think it is messed up that a Senator's significant other, whether boyfriend, girlfriend, spouse, partner, whatever, could be appointed a U.S. Attorney without violating ethics rules.
  2. I think it is messed up that a Senator's former state director could be appointed...say...U.S. Marshall, as happened with Conrad Burns earlier this decade.
  3. I think workplace relationships are generally terrible ideas.
All that said, the problem here is as much about the rules of the game as they are about judgment in these situations. Would it be better to nominate your former state director to the senior-most law enforcement position in the state, the person who oversees corruption cases, because you're not seeing them romantically?

If anything, I'd be more worried about the potential of a future scorned lover in the US Attorney's position than I would be about the fiercest political nemesis...

But there's a place here where the Missoulian crosses the line, attacking Max's staff for going to bat for their boss. Anyone who has worked in politics knows that going to bat for your boss is what you do. Staff aren't extensions of their "principal," they're an army dedicated to protecting that person.

I don't know who in Max's operation knew what when. I'm guessing the Missoulian also lacks omniscience. I do know that has probably been a damn long week for a bunch of people who didn't make ethical lapses.

I heard a story years ago about a local Democratic elected official who got asked what he thought about Bill Clinton's affairs. He said he was pissed. When he got told that he was being prude, he responded that he didn't really care that Bill Clinton had sex. He cared that Bill Clinton's actions had to become the focus of so many young staffers and other people all over the country who couldn't get laid for the next two years because of the long hours they had to put in protecting the President's agenda.

Anyways, as someone who works in the bidness, it is worth keeping in mind that as usual, the staff here aren't culpable. They're just responsible for taking care of the mess. Being jerks to them personally is unnecessary.

Update -- Matthew Koehler suggests in comments that I disclose that I'm friends with members of Max Baucus's staff. That's true. I've both butted heads with them and gone to their birthday parties.

For the record, I'm friends with lots of people, as evidenced by my Facebook page. But, yes, my friends include multiple people on Max Baucus's staff...and I care about my friends and the difficult time they're in.

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Hey! (0.00 / 0)
Hey, I'm GLAD that Max is havin' sex!  I just wish he didn't have to PAY for it!  Makes all us Dems look bad.  You see, we DO have our principles!  Should be in our platform.  BTW, bad making comparisons to corndog buns!

How can you say the Missoulian "crossed the line" (0.00 / 0)
You're going to protect a politician and his operatives against the media?

Now that's a stretch that is telling.

And my read of the Missoulian editorial the other day , which you so conveniently left out, was not an attack on his staff. It was mere reportage, with the editorializing being confined to Baucus' part:

Not only would Baucus not speak directly to the Missoulian, but his then-spokesman, Barrett Kaiser, refused to address the issue and strove to keep any story at all about Hanes' nomination from print. Indeed, the night before the story was to run, Kaiser called the paper and told us that Hanes' nomination had been withdrawn.

With nothing from Baucus on the record, and no way to prove the veracity of Hanes' husband's assertions, the Missoulian couldn't responsibly print the allegations...

The Missoulian is deeply disappointed with Baucus for his poor handling of this entire incident. First, his nomination of Hanes was unethical. Then, he failed to disclose his personal relationship with Hanes to either Dana Christiansen, whom he appointed to review applications, or Sen. Jon Tester, with whom he interviewed finalists for the position.

Even after being confronted by a Missoulian reporter, he still refused to be forthcoming about the relationship. Had he been forthright then, all this probably would have blown over by now. Instead, many Montanans are seriously questioning Baucus' judgement just at the moment we should be focusing on his role in national health care reform, energy legislation and a host of other crucial legislative matters.

The Missoulian couldn't care less about Baucus' personal romantic relationships. Such things are a private matter that has no bearing on the public's business - or at least, they should be. But when someone in a position of public trust and authority uses his position to further the career of someone he is romantically linked to, that warrants full disclosure and public scrutiny.

Baucus exercised poor judgment in this matter not once, but repeatedly.

That fact that he seems oblivious to this is all the more cause for worry.

Don't know what you're whining about here, Matt. But did one of your friends just get called out for putting the pol before the people?

I don't think most of the rest of us have a problem with the Missoulian's editorial. Actually, I was impressed with how reserved it was, in light of how scathing it could have been.


Matt: You're post begs the question... (0.00 / 0)
...Were the guards at the concentration camps just "going to bat for the boss?"

From the Missoulian's Editorial:

"Not only would Baucus not speak directly to the Missoulian, but his then-spokesman, Barrett Kaiser, refused to address the issue and strove to keep any story at all about Hanes' nomination from print. Indeed, the night before the story was to run, Kaiser called the paper and told us that Hanes' nomination had been withdrawn."

Seems as if perhaps Mr. Kaiser did, in fact, "make ethical lapses" while "going to bat for his boss."  Seems to me as if his being called out by the Missoulian is 110% appropriate.

But Matt, shouldn't you at least disclose to us all that you're friends with Barrett Kaiser and some of the Team Baucus staff? I mean, there's that Facebook picture of you up at Kaiser's lake shore pad with the rest of Team Baucus this past 4th of July. Or is "Full Disclosure" just reserved for your T-shirt company?


That's confused (0.00 / 0)
Seems as if perhaps Mr. Kaiser did, in fact, "make ethical lapses" while "going to bat for his boss."

The Missoulian claims that Kaiser "strove" to keep the story from print, and their only evidence is that he told them the nomination had been withdrawn?  Where's the ethical lapse?  That's not good reporting or even weaker reading.

But Matt, shouldn't you at least disclose to us all that you're friends with Barrett Kaiser and some of the Team Baucus staff?

Guilt by association seems to be pretty popular with the "witch hunt" crowd.

...Were the guards at the concentration camps just "going to bat for the boss?"

That's ridiculous, and truly the fallacy of begging the question. You've already decided the answer.  But your analogy is just codswallop.  There is absolutely no similarity between a political operative covering his boss's ass from political flack, and herding people into gas chambers.  Does somebody maybe need to be reminded that Baucus didn't do anything illegal?  What Baucus did was distasteful, but it's a far cry from murder, wouldn't you agree?

There's some folk around here who really need to get their priorities in order.


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You're comparing this to the Nazis? (0.00 / 0)
Really?

Bold fucking move.


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Nope, I'm not... (0.00 / 0)
But apparently you want to take it that way, Matt. That's the bold fucking move.

I have simply expressed my personal opinion regarding your post. I have also stated how I believe the fact that you're friends with a number of Baucus' staffers, including Mr. Kaiser, should have been disclosed in your defense of their actions. I'm glad that you have done that in your update, as I think full disclosure is warranted.

As you know, these staffers work for our elected officials, who in theory represent us. If Mr. Kaiser, in fact, "strove to keep any story at all about Hanes' nomination from print. Indeed, the night before the story was to run, Kaiser called the paper and told us that Hanes' nomination had been withdrawn," as the Missoulian has stated, I see no why he shouldn't be held accountable for those actions. After all, wasn't Mr. Kaiser a public employee too when this happened? I'm sorry, but I just don't buy into your "the boss made me do it" defense. Thanks.


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Ahem (0.00 / 0)
That's ridiculous, and truly the fallacy of begging the question. You've already decided the answer.  But your analogy is just codswallop.  There is absolutely no similarity between a political operative covering his boss's ass from political flack, and herding people into gas chambers.  Does somebody maybe need to be reminded that Baucus didn't do anything illegal?  What Baucus did was distasteful, but it's a far cry from murder, wouldn't you agree?

There's some folk around here who really need to get their priorities in order.



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ahem... (0.00 / 0)
I'm not going to take your bait Rob Kailey. Have a good night.

P.S. In the spirit of full disclosure...I'm a Forward Montana member and have been for a few years now. I fully support the efforts of that organization, even if I might disagree with some of the individuals from time to time. Heck, we even just gave them an extra holiday contribution last weekend. Thanks.


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There was no "bait" intended, Matthew (0.00 / 0)
Curb your paranoia.

You went to wingnut extremes, rather needlessly.  I just wanted to see if you'd acknowledge that.  Apparently not.

There is no reason to liken anything here to the holocaust.  On this, surely we can agree?


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The I.R. nails Baucus today, too (0.00 / 0)
The Missoulian was just the first mainstream paper to hold Baucus accountable.  Here's the link and first paragraph from today's Helena Independent Record.

http://helenair.com/news/opini...

Ethical lapse | Montana's senior senator was not 'above-board' by nominating his girlfriend and hiding it
Baucus should be held accountable

Independent Record | An IR view | Posted: Thursday, December 10, 2009 12:05 am | (4) Comments

In the days following the breaking news that U.S. Sen. Max Baucus had nominated his live-in girlfriend for the high-ranking U.S. attorney position in Montana, the state's senior senator has steadfastly and repeatedly defended his actions.


So (0.00 / 0)
At what point do we all just agree that Baucus sucks, and we're not going to vote for him again?

Oblivious (0.00 / 0)
The one word says it all but I can't resist this one: "Just as the scorpion threatened by fire shoots it's own venom into itself, democracy encircled by the flames of free-market economics and the new world order pumps the searing venom of corruption into it's veins."

Jean Baudrillard.   Sweet, huh?


Jean Baudrillard ? (0.00 / 0)
 would like to see more of where this juicy quote came from?
     thanks for sharing... especially in light of the financial news the dems are doing to us this morning. But for sure it's Obama's direction and thrust...the DLC  Neo-liberals are running the show and making new rules.

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baucus is no boss of mine matt. (0.00 / 0)
you're entitled to your opinion of course just as i am entitled to see blindness in your words.

Seriously? (0.00 / 0)
No one should go after Baucus' staff for being complete f***ing tools just because they're paid to be complete f***ing tools?  I find that to be a tad ridiculous.


wah wah where was Centrist in the West (0.00 / 0)
 
When Baucus arrested 13 ppl pleading to get Single Payer (Medicare for All) back on the table ?
 'No where' that's where, no where to be found. - out to lunch Now they want to cry because their point man Baucus picked his GF.  
   Where was Centrist in the West when BAucus named Jim Fleishman as the SEIU puppet/toad ???

      Isn't this article just a Smoke Screen - trying to look like you're 'progressive' ... well You're NOT.  


Koehler, Really? Really? (0.00 / 0)
You sir are an idiot. Scratch that, you blockhead are an idiot.  Nazi's? Really?  WOW.  

Let's lay a few things out.  First, are you really focusing your time and energy on what Max's staff has done to protect their boss?  Don't you have a tree to chain yourself to?

Next, It's a shame Mel Haines was not selected for the post.  In my opinion she was far and away the most talented, competent and committed candidate.  Wait, What?  We're actually looking for competency from our elected and appointed officials? I am.  Senator Baucus chose 3 well qualified candidates.  Rather than looking at candidates and competency you choose to hurl grenades at the senator.  Neat, good job, we are all proud of you.   Max is not going to do everything you want Mr. Koehler and you know that.  I know, and you know, Max and his staff have a lot better things to spend their time on right now.  Like it or not Max has always done what he truly believes is best for Montana-if it's selecting Mel,  fighting Canadian mining, protecting our people in Libby, or even signing W's tax cuts-He is doing what he believes is right for Montana and that is why we keep sending him back again and again.

Mr. Koehler, you are a turd on the process.  While I will always advocate for active engagement in your case I will ask you to BEAT IT.  Nazi's?  REALLY? Wow!  What's even worse is that we can't even credit you for coming up with that on your own. That's a page straight out of the conservative Christian play book.  This is no contribution to healthy discourse.  

Full disclosure:  I am not a Max staffer or fluffer-I certainly have my own frustrations with him.  Mr, Kaiser is a close friend.  I like Mel Haines and think you suck for a worthless "nazi" contribution.  You're better than that Koehler. At least, I hope so.  


Well actually, Jed... (0.00 / 0)
"Don't you have a tree to chain yourself to?"

No, I have Senate testimony on the Tester logging bill to prepare for http://testerloggingbilltruths... ...But thanks for asking...and for just basically offering up a bunch of insults my way.

I stand by the content of what I said and my right to express it. Perhaps for some, my little example was a bit extreme. OK, perhaps so. But this is "blogging" for crying out loud...isn't it supposed to be a little edgy or interesting? Each and every one of you have done the same thing. My god, Rob Kailey goes after me...and then offers up what many consider an insensitive comment about Senator Burns' stroke. I mean, really, Jed...give me a break with the personal lashing out at me and lighten up.

I had every right to point out Matt Singer's relationship with these staffers when he writes what many of us considered to be a lame defense of his friends. I'm moving on...because you're right, we all have better things to be doing with our time.


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Insensitive? (0.00 / 0)
My comments about Burns were vastly more sensitive and caring for reality than equating Baucus staffers with prison gaurds at Auschwitz.  No wonder JD's pissed off.

Like I wrote, Matthew, I think you need to get your priorities straight.  That isn't "lashing out at you".  It's pointing out the rather obvious.


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Apparently, you do. (0.00 / 0)
You are delusional.

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~sigh~ (0.00 / 0)
You don't need my password.  All you have to do is click on my username anywhere it appears in blue, and then click the tab that says "comments".  Here, let me link it for you.  I left you those very instructions, with link even, at your website but strangely the comment never appeared.  If I were conspiracy minded or delusional, I would assume that the absence of a thing proves its existence.  But then I'm not you.

If the Colts can't stop the Bronco running game then it will be Colts by 10 or less.  If they can, it will likely be a higher margin.


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i am feeling particularly sadistic today (0.00 / 0)
now that baucus/fail health care bill is officially abandoning public option and medicare buy-in (Reid is about to announce this) to appease the centrists, i am wondering just what part of this piece of shit bill is remotely worth passing....

it gives carte blanche to health insurers to stick it to us royally by raising premiums after we are forced to buy their crappy products. where is the reform in this?

sadistically i would be particularly amused to see how matt spins this.


Pieces? (0.00 / 0)
Oh yes, there are pieces worth passing.  Very small pieces.  Very very small.  The bill itself?

It's crap.

Thank you LIEberman, Nelson, Landrieu, Reid, Baucus and every Republican (including Snowe) out there.  The clown circus Senate amuses again, in a particularly painful way.

Are you sure, pbear, that you aren't feeling masochistic?


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no - sadistic is definitely it... (0.00 / 0)
i am eagerly awaiting matt's spin. especially when it comes to rahm emanuel  
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...

i am pretty sure that lieberman is doing exactly what rahm, reid and baucus want (0.00 / 0)
of course, reid and the white house "appear" to be enraged and disappointed at lieberman. but i am pretty sure he collects some IOU's from the above later on after the dust is settled on being a lightening rod for ssid parties so that big health insurance money continues to flow for the next couple of election cycles....

corruption wins. we lose in higher premiums. pretty slick.  


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