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Montana v. Massachusetts

by: Matt Singer

Wed Jan 20, 2010 at 09:58:14 AM MST


Markos, grappling with last night's Massachusetts returns, cites Montana Democrats (and alludes to, I believe, our flat-topped Senator) as another example of hard-to-believe victories achieved, by part, by sheer hard work:
In 2006, while researching Democratic gains in Red Montana, I asked a couple of state legislators how they won their tough races. I was looking for the magic message, but instead got a mundane answer: they knocked on doors. Lots of them. And they put tens of thousands of miles on their pickup trucks.

That's the strategy we saw in reverse in indigo-Blue Massachusetts -- a Republican who downplayed his GOP badge while putting in thousands of miles on his pickup truck. 200,000 of them.

Teddy never took his voters for granted, no matter how big an icon he was in the state. Brown didn't take them for granted either. He was aggressive, engaged, effective, and ... lucky as all shit. It's not every day you get to go up against a candidate who takes everything for granted, neglects to negatively define you, and heads out for vacation while the race is still on.

Yesterday, a few hours before the race in Massachusetts was called, I was at the campaign announcement of Bryce Bennett. Bryce is a long-time friend and (full disclosure) currently a co-worker at Forward Montana. He's also among the hardest working people I know in politics. He's been out knocking doors in January in a strongly Democratic district (almost as Democratic as Massachusetts) despite a lack of filed opponents.

Why? Because that's what voters deserve. A lot of Scott Brown's voters probably disagreed with him on a bunch of policy issues. He will, soon, be among the most unpopular members of the U.S. Senate or a deep disappointment to the Tea Party crowd that elected him. But for at least a while, he was the only candidate in the game who appeared to give a damn what voters thought.

Separately, I have absolutely no patience for the Democrats in Washington, DC, who are now ready to throw in the towel on health care reform in the name of the Massachusetts results. This is a serious mistake for a number of reasons, both policy-wise and politically. Policy-wise because even the Senate bill is a significant improvement over the status quo. Politically because the last thing Democrats need to indicate to the country is that they, once again, have no substantive principles for which they'll risk their careers.

If the Democrats turn from this setback, weeping and scared, and crawl in a cave and become the part of 2003 again, there's a whole lot of us who will be more than ready to abandon ship. And for me it won't be because I didn't get single-payer or whatever else, my-way-or-the-highway bullshit, it will be because America needs a party capable of governing. The Republicans have proven they can't be trusted. The Democrats have one more year to make their case.

Matt Singer :: Montana v. Massachusetts
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Montana / Massachusetts (0.00 / 0)

Matt, without gloating, it really doesn't matter to the White House if you abandon ship or not. Looking at the careers of Dodd, Griffith, Corzine, Deeds, Griffith, Coakley and soon-to-be others, they seem interested in protecting The Great Leader, not his devotees.

The political pendulum in Montana is already swinging right, and Massachusetts will have no affect.

It's not like I didn't predict this - (ok slight gloating)  LOL


Mmmm sausage . . . (0.00 / 0)
I liked this.

Confirm thy soul in self control, thy liberty in law.

"America needs a party capable of governing" (0.00 / 0)
The party that brought us the Baucus Bill is not a party I deem capable of governing. And I see no indications that the dem party is going to move in the right direction.

"One more year to make their case"?

I fear the dems will learn the wrong lessons here. And if so, they have already lost their case. And I don't need another year to see that.

Here's the out for the dems:

1) House should play ping pong with the Senate health care bill. Amend it to their liking and approval. Ditch the current backroom strategy.

2) Send it back to the Senate. The Senate should amend it to the ability of their chamber. If republican obstructionism kills the bill, so be it.

4) Blame republicans for their obstructionist strategy, loudly and clearly, and start running on getting rid of the filibuster, and 60 vote rules. People see that one problem in the senate is the tyranny of the minority.

If it is not political doable to reform health care, then it is time for a revolution, not "change." But don't think that dems will lead us in that direction...


How do you break the GOP filibuster in the Senate, JC? (0.00 / 0)
No, really, how do you?

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You change the rules (0.00 / 0)
or if the Senate isn't capable of doing it themselves, then the people have to take into their own hands and amend the constitution. Barring either of those two things, America will continue its descent.

A tyranny of the minority, which results in unicameralism (and that is what we will have if the House is forced to eat the Senate bill whole--rule by a 'House of Lords") portends the fall of America.

One way or the other, it has to end.  


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the leadership of the democratic party (0.00 / 0)
has taken what could have been an exciting year and put us all to sleep with their somnambulist plodding pace...

they have enraged us all with their pandering to corporate lobbyists...

they have frustrated us with their deafness to what people want in this country...

in their zeal to preserve their advantage. they have wasted a golden opportunity to lead.

the leadership continues to misunderstand the problem and is getting it all 180 degrees wrong again. will they take away from this election the exact opposite of what they should learn? of course they will. it is in their cowardly leadership's genetic makeup to retreat. instead of realizing that they are too timid and conservative already....

they are a perfect political example of a prevent defense which begins way too early in the game.  


Rendel (0.00 / 0)
would be an awesome candidate.

Overreacting to MA (0.00 / 0)
It was said of Nehru that he was like a great tree under which everyone sheltered but nothing grew. Quite possibly that was true of Teddy Kennedy. Martha Coakley was a weak candidate who ran a terrible campaign. She might have won had she worked as hard as Cheryl Steenson did in Montana's HD-8 in 2008 (see www.flatheadmemo.com). The election was less a referendum on health care and Obama and more a repudiation of a candidate whom the voters thought was smug and lazy.

Matt is right. This is no time to strike our sails and hoist the white flag. To the contrary, we must raise every scrap of canvas to be found and fly our biggest battle ensign.

There are still a number of ways to pass a health care that does some good. And the same holds true for other issues.

In the meantime, we must initiate a grassroots campaign to return the U.S. Senate to majority rule: no filibusters, no supermajorities other than those required by the Constitution, and no more holds. I suggest that political entities at all levels immediately pass resolutions calling for a return to majority rule in the Senate, and send those resolutions to our blessings in the Senate, and to all others under the sun. There are still 57 Democrats in the Senate, and just 41 Republicans. If the Senate operated by majority rule, we could pass a great deal of progressive legislation, the most, perhaps, since FDR's first two terms.

Democrats: get mad, get nukes, and use 'em.


Well, there is the nuclear option (0.00 / 0)
If the dems in the senate were to use that, it would open the dialog with the public. I think that the public doesn't have a clue as to how the 60 vote supermajority evolved, or about the Byrd rule.

So, just like dems learned all about super delegates in the last election, and the electoral college and the power of +1 vote in Bush v. Gore, now is the time for the people to learn about how to rectify the dysfunctionality of the senate.

For those that don't know, the nuclear option is when a majority of the senate declares the 60 vote supermajority needed in a filibuster tssentially to be unconstitutional, and proceed forthwith. What you will hear, and is incorrect, is that the nuclear option is simple reconciliation. It is not.

The House should proceed to amend the current bill in conference, and send back the amended version to the senate for the nuclear option.

Then let the chips fall where they may, and the people weigh in.


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the pendulum swings back and forth... (0.00 / 0)
but the hands move ever forward. albeit- at a glacial pace.  the curve of history tells us that we always progress toward justice, goodness and fairness. time is on our side. we will get there eventually. we are water. they are rock. take heart.

regressives and ultra rights will rejoice in the moment's battle but eventually lose ground to history. spiritus mundi shall prevail.


re: Montana v. Massachusetts (0.00 / 1)
Thanks for the information, the recent victor of the special Senate Election in Massachusetts, Scott Brown, has something in common with American Idol - besides that no one really cares. Scott Brown has a daughter, Ayla Brown that was a contestant in the fifth season of Idol, and reached the Top 16. That said, Idol has not promised to be another dog in the manger, as Brown has, for Obama's health care bill. It seems any payday loans from Big Pharma and Big Insurance have been well spent. That said, perhaps this will be the big boost her career needed.

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