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Reefer Madness strikes Kalispell

by: Jay Stevens

Mon Feb 15, 2010 at 06:19:02 AM MST


I have to say, I don't really understand the logical connections in this story:

The Kalispell City Council plans to consider an emergency ordinance placing a 90-day moratorium on medical marijuana businesses.

Council members on Tuesday are scheduled to consider the moratorium in the wake of the announcement of such a business planning to open half a block from an elementary school.

I can understand considering zoning issues for businesses making and dispensing medicinal marijuana - is it a clinic? a chemical plant? - but what does having it near a school have anything to do with anything? It's legal...are they worried people who make and distribute medicinal marijuana are morally compromised? That those suffering from debilitating and fatal illnesses who use medicinal marijuana are going to somehow gravitate towards Kalispell's kiddies, drawn towards them with pot-fueled-malice, like moths to flame?

Obviously the idea of marijuana dispensaries are jolting Town Fathers across that state. Prejudice remains. Visions of "Reefer Madness" swirl. Which I get. But I also get that just because the feds have laid off obstructing medicinal marijuana dispensing in Montana and elsewhere doesn't mean that town officials won't...

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Perhaps you have the (0.00 / 0)
makings of a great idea to save our schools.  By day the facilities would conduct classes, by night they would become neighborhood dispensaries, strip joints and casinos.  That would reduce carbon footprints and impaired driving while raising revenue for the little kids.  

love how you equate... (0.00 / 0)
...a medicinal dispensary to strip clubs and casinos, lol...

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Why so narrow minded about (0.00 / 0)
what is medicine?  http://medical-dictionary.thef...

There are many people with cognitive and visual disabilities that would benefit from alternative therapies that are present with strip clubs and casinos.  Why would you deny these citizens from enjoying their medicinal therapies conveniently located near or in schools as you advocate for weed? And again, think of the revenue to help the children and prevent coal development. Don't be such a curmudgeon.


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not advocating for pot craig (0.00 / 0)
just supporting the citizens right to have their will followed regarding the passing of the initiative. as i would any majority supported and constitutionally legal initiative.

the minority of citizens should yield to the will of the majority regarding medicinal marijuana use. should it not?

and if not. why not?

the advocacy period has passed muster with passage of the initiative. now it is simply defending an adult's right to choose a legal remedy.

i don't use it craig- i can't use it. but i do support the right of other adults who may choose to use it. i call it personal freedom and defending the individual's rights over the over-reaching arm of the government. don't you?


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Pbear (0.00 / 0)
I was responding to Jay's advocacy of locating "medicinal" outlets next to schools.  He's hit upon a goldmine to save the kids from funding problems.  

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zoning should take care of that problem. (0.00 / 0)
as a routine local addendum in the normal business licensing procedure. wouldn't you think?

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This worries you Jay ? (0.00 / 0)

They regulate bars, liquor stores, and adult bookstores too - why would weed-dispensaries be any different?

I know you're 'worried' about people not being able to get to their 'medicine' - but lets face it - as the market matures, like in some other states, if you want some weed, you go to the store, they shuffle you off through a door for an examination, you get examined, and get a card, and then you buy your weed and go smoke it.

I can see people wanting to keep them away from elementary schools.


here's a little flash-back nightmare for (0.00 / 0)
missoula's chief muir and eric coobs....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...


the link to missoula independent (0.00 / 0)
is broken today - in fact the whole independent newsite appears to be down right now.... but i do have a related link to the "mistake" of a bust at eagle watch estates nursing home... http://stash.norml.org/missoul...

What sickness do you suffer from (0.00 / 1)
that makes you so up-in-arms over this issue, Stevens?  

Why so bent out of shape over the city of Kalispell, MT and their community standards?  You back in the state or still blogging from PA?

Exit question:  Why are hippies so in love with a substance that slows their already painfully-slow thought processes? Is being completely disconnected from reality that enjoyable?  

Lazy people, ya gotta love 'em!!1!


you also gotta ... (0.00 / 0)
respect the wishes of the majority of citizens in this state that passed the medical use of marijuana initiative rusty.

the people have spoken. an adult's legal right to choose in this state takes precedence over some moron's personal perceptions of what they choose. I don't use marijuana and never have used it rusty. i had whooping cough as a kid and can't smoke anything at all.

but i do believe in defending those adults who choose to use it for any reason (but especially medicinal) from those ignorant people like yourself who profess a love of personal freedom over government control but who only seek freedom for themselves but are hypocritically more than willing to see government take away the rights of others.

 


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Don't bother to hit Rusty with facts (0.00 / 0)
Ad Hominem and Straw Men are all he has left, poor thing.

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The voters of MT were lied to (0.00 / 0)
It's not about the "medical use of marijuana" it's about stoners wanting to get stoned, plain and simple.  

Why do you think that the license issued that allows one to "deal" this "medicine" is referred as a "green card"?  


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Making facts up, now aren't you? (0.00 / 0)
Yes, the fine voters of Montana were lied to, but old Rusty sees through it, even if his statesman are too stupid to do so.  Face it, Ad Hominem and Straw men are all you have left, because you can't live if you can't slap hippies.  Isn't that right, you pathetic piece of wingnut?  Your state disagrees with you.  Deal with it, kitten.

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So (0.00 / 0)
hippies/stoners aren't referring to it as a "green card"?  Is that fact made up, wufly?

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Hmm (0.00 / 0)
Ad Hominem and Straw men are all you have left, because you can't live if you can't slap hippies.  Isn't that right, you pathetic piece of wingnut?

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i would be careful labeling people regarding this issue rusty (0.00 / 0)
you would be surprised at the powerful and influential right wing people you read about in the newspaper and meet every day who choose for themselves how to recreate in their own homes and who do not appreciate ignorant and insulting mass judgments.

in their circles you would be perceived as an ignorant and boorish pariah.

 


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conservos in the thread.... (0.00 / 0)
Weird how conservatives are gleefully attacking this post in the thread. It's pretty emblematic of why the GOP is a nursing-home party, destined to either fade away or radically redesign itself in the next 20 years.

First, younger Americans don't get older Americans obsession with pot. Maybe it was all the black-and-white scare reels y'all used to watch in Civics classes, or something, but the shrill hyperbolic denunciation of pot fits in with blue hair and polyester pants. That and gay marriage are the two issues that divide young voter from old.

Second, younger Montanans -- not so much Pennsylvanians, tho, it's an older crowd here -- aren't crazy about the Drug War. Oodles of money spent on ridiculous police budgets. Out-of-control busts...prisons stuffed with nonviolent offenders...the overreach of local, state, and federal governments in the name of policing drugs...the annoying tone of moral superiority by the anti-drug crusaders...it's one of the country's more shameful episodes, and medicinal marijuana is right there athe heart of the controversy.

This controversy about the school fits right in with this generational, geographical divide. I realize it's a lot to ask for, but wouldn't it be nice if politicos acted rationally instead of listened to the hysteria-infused voices of a few moral crusaders?


I'm sure Mark T. has seen (0.00 / 0)
 this "we're not gonna bust medicinal marijuana operations" meme go down the toilet in CO.
But Jeffrey Sweetin, the top Drug Enforcement Administration official in Colorado, said Friday that "every dispensary in the state is in blatant violation of federal law." He said the DEA would soon target dispensaries for arrests and seizures. The DEA last week arrested the operator of a high-profile Highlands Ranch growing operation.
http://www.coloradoan.com/arti...
um, this is a change, isn't it?

My wife's shop is down the street from a med/mar dispensary (0.00 / 0)
and it's intriguing to watch the traffic in and out of that place: ranchers from Helmville, elderly women from Plains, even saw a whole family with Granite County license plates wander in one day ...

no one on the right complains about liquor stores and bar businesses (0.00 / 0)
i see no difference. without liquor stores and bars this state would have half the jobs is does now. jobs dispensing a drug to consenting adults is still a job. we need more new businesses in missoula and kalispell. not less.

alcohol is by far the more dangerous drug if someone wants to increase regulation - it should start there. we have lost what? three state patrol officers and one excellent county attorney to drunk driving not to mention the deaths dismemberment, paralysis, head injuries and other greivous wounds afflicting countless citizens every year.

local government should get out of the way of free enterprise and the citizen's right to determine their own health choices if they want decent paying jobs for their citizens.


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