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The Double Speak Petitioners

by: Matt Singer

Fri Apr 23, 2010 at 09:52:19 AM MST


Fresh in my inbox, a press release from MEA-MFT, the 18,000 strong union representing teachers and others, on why they're opposing CI-105, the real estate transfer tax ban:
"CI-105 would prohibit a tax that does not exist. It would embed that prohibition in Montana's state constitution," said MEA-MFT President Eric Feaver. "It is at root an anti-government measure."

CI-105 would constitutionally prohibit a real estate transfer tax. CI-105 could also potentially prevent local governments and public schools from using local impact fees to cover the costs of new subdivisions and student enrollment growth.

That's the substance, but the process behind this initiative is also dodgy:
For the past several weeks, signature gatherers have stationed themselves in parking lots and public areas across the state, gathering signatures to qualify CI-105 for the November ballot. Commissioner of Political Practices Dennis Unsworth has reported receiving numerous complaints about fraud and deception.

"I have heard reports of paid signature gatherers who misrepresent what CI-105 is all about.  Apparently, they will say anything to get people to sign their petitions. Some signature gatherers are from out of state, which is against Montana state law," said Terry Minow, MEA-MFT Political Director.

And some signature gatherers have been reported to claim, fraudulently, that CI-105 abolishes the "inheritance tax," which, like the real estate transfer tax, does not exist in Montana.

I can verify that the signature gatherers do not appear to be following Montana law. I got stopped last weekend outside Barnes & Noble by a petitioner who told me he didn't think he had the full language of the amendment with him. He was clearly poorly trained. A number of their signature gatherers appear to be wearing Montana State IDs around their necks -- not driver's licenses.

I've heard from others that the initiative has been misrepresented to them by signature gatherers who don't really understand the issue they're working on.

Signature gathering fraud has a lively history in Montana sadly. The good news is that the courts stepped in last time and cracked down on this.

Based on the number of petitioners running around, the Realtors (or whoever their ultimate backers are) are spending a hell of a lot of money on this initiative. They might be learning a valuable lesson soon about the importance of hiring credible signature gatherers and running a professional operation if they want to take part in the initiative process.

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Ran into some of these dudes (0.00 / 0)
over at the Orange Street Food Farm. They were very pushy. Made me want to invoke the new aggressive panhandling law, as that's what it felt like, and call the cops.

What are our rights to challenge these guys on the spot? Ask for IDs and who they work for? Who do we report suspected violations to? They were pretty aggressive with all of the folks coming in and out of the store. And they didn't want to explain the petition tome in any detail. I don't know why a store would have to put up with that kind of negative BS at their front door.  


lots of them over at rosauers (0.00 / 0)
seemed harmless enough but dim as two watt bulbs. nobody was signing anything when i was there. it looked too sketchy to everyone and the petitioners didn't seem to know much about specifics either.

please - if anyone can give me an address where i can access some petitions for the payday loan initiative please post it here so i can get started on my bear suit measurements. - thanks


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Take Notes (0.00 / 0)
After my encounter, I wrote down the time, the location, a physical description of the signature gatherer, and the details of our conversation.

I sent a copy to Terry Minow at MEA-MFT, who is keeping tabs on this stuff closer than any body.

I imagine all those details will be helpful should there be a need to go to court over this.


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Having run initiatives (0.00 / 0)
and used paid petitioners, I'd say this has all the signs of using paid, out-of-state petitioners. Good spot, guys.

Sig. Gatherers (0.00 / 0)
Most of the signature gatherers I've encountered, from Kalispell to Bozeman have had their Montana drivers licenses hanging around their necks.

When I refused to sign the petition (0.00 / 0)
I told the woman I thought that most people, especially the wealthy, were undertaxed.  She repeated her little speal as though she thought I'd misunderstood her.  When I repeated what I'd just said, she took off for the next house.

I know nearly everyone in Dillon but I didn't recognize her.  


Huh? (0.00 / 0)

I'm not sure exactly what your objection is to this.

Don't you want to try to keep future mortgages low?

I heard a talk on this, from a realtor, and he explained that the purpose of this bill is to try to keep some future legislature from tacking a sales tax onto home sales.

Lets say that Matt Singer wants to buy a $150,000 house, and some future legislature were to enact a 3% tax, that'd be another $4500 he would have to borrow.

So why the opposition?

Because a Democrat didn't propose it?


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