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Mulling election reform

by: Jay Stevens

Thu Jun 10, 2010 at 07:41:33 AM MST


From California:

Under Proposition 14, a measure that easily passed, traditional party primaries will be replaced in 2011 with wide-open elections. The top two vote-getters - whatever their party, or if they have no party at all - will face off in the general election.

Supporters argue that without parties picking candidates for the general election, moderates and independents will move to the fore, and voters will pay more attention to the electoral process.

Critics of the measure say it will give a huge advantage to candidates who have the most money or the widest name recognition.

Interesting, eh? It wouldn't be a bad idea for Montana, where a lot of elections are decided during the primary in districts that are heavily skewed Republican or Democratic. Take Missoula's HD94, where LiTW fave, Ellie Hill, beat out Lou Ann Crowley by 94 votes: there's no Republican challenger on the general election ballot. And even if there was, a Republican doesn't stand much of a chance in a district that was +38 for Obama. And while Ellie's probably cursing me for wishing a general-election opponent on her, wouldn't it be a good thing to have a meaning legislative ballot for HD94's voters in November? Likewise, across the state's conservative districts, many state representatives have already been chosen in the primary.

But...a primary allows an underdog. The elections are smaller and less expensive, the voters typically more committed and knowledgeable, elections more about policy and ideas than the general election's over-reliance on personal narrative. Primaries let more candidates enter the race -- imagine the pressure on non-establishment candidates to drop out for fear they'd steal votes from the establishment picks. And you could argue that Montana's open primary already blunts pure partisanship from selecting general-election opponents.

Oh, and in case you were hoping that publicly financed elections had a chance here in Montana -- for the Supreme Court race, say -- the SCOTUS, in its ongoing efforts to elevate the speech of corporate persons over everyday persons, issued a "temporary emergency order" for Arizona's publicly financed  candidates from receiving matching funds of opponents "who haven't opted into the system." (There's an excellent segment on NOW that explains how publicly financed elections work.) The emergency order grew out of a 2006 SCOTUS decision against the "millionaire's amendment" of McCain-Feingold Act, which "allowed a candidate to raise more money through larger donations if his opponent was spending lavishly." Of the amendment, Justice Alito said it was a "'drag' on the free-speech rights of the wealthier candidate because he was penalized for spending more."

No mention was made of the "drag" on our free-speech rights because we didn't happen to be born into a multi-million-dollar inheritance, or happen to value things other than money. Like, say, family, farming, or study.

Anyway...thoughts on election reform in Montana?

Jay Stevens :: Mulling election reform
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I'm opposed to Prop-14 and ambivalent to slightly opposed to public finance. (0.00 / 0)
The political impacts of Prop-14 will be that it will
a) makes politicians more centrist, as they will position themselves closer to the new median voter. Before Prop-14, that used to be the median voter in the primary, which is a mainstream Democrat or Republican. Now, it will be the median voter in the inter-party primary, which is a moderate Independent in most districts.

Looking at Lieberman, Baucus, Bayh or Nelson I'm not really fired up by the thought of having 50-60% of them sitting in the MT legislature.

b) it will eliminate third parties completely, which I think isn't a good thing. Third parties are good for Democracy, you get more choices even if they're not really viable.

Public finance is a good idea on the surface, of course it would scale back lobbyism and self-funding candidates, which would be good.

But- would you fund all candidates? Would, for some examples, Alvin Greene or Bob Kelleher get public funds? Seems like a waste of money.

would they get the same sum? It seems also like a waste of money to spend millions of taxpayers money on Utah Democrats.

-would it be proportional to prior performance? That's not a good idea because we have a lot of variance in consecutive election results. Why would the guy who ran against Rehberg in 2002 (Kelly? or was that 04?) get 47% of the funds or so just because Keenan did so well?

The only way to solve that would be voting for generic party ballots and not for candidates, which would drastically reduce variance.

-would third parties get funds? If so, equal to the two major ones? Or would there be a 10% support threshold, like with debates?

- it would also either drastically reduce the amount of money spend on elections, which would kill thousands of jobs, and, even more importantly, that wouldn't be good for Democracy, as people would cease to be engaged by campaigns, if no one can pay for a really good GOTV campaign, and when it's not longer necessary to rely on low-dollar donors.
Or, several billions of taxpayer's money would go out of the window every year.

In my opinion, it would lead the US en route to a parliamentary system with candiates elected from party lists at-large, statewide. Which is a system that might produce okay policy, but would be really boring and kill any citizen's participation in politics.

It is like that in Germany, and our elections are dead boring. I barely know who my own  congressman is (in fact I only know the name and the party he belongs to, I've never even seen a picture), and I don't think that I've ever known the name of my state representative. And I'm a politics junkie.

So, revise that. I'm strongly opposed to public financing as well. I'm trying to escape from that system, I don't want it to happen here as well.



The scary thing (0.00 / 0)
Is that this year it would have resulted in races where no democrat was represented (HD 8 for example), as Republican turnout was 2:1.  This seat is a battleground and held by a Dem who is not running.  

Would it? (0.00 / 0)
Turnout very likely would have looked different under such a system.

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Of course the primary dyanmics would change (0.00 / 0)
But even with that i wonder if Montanan's are ready for that level of engagement.  Maybe people should be given two votes, or asked to rank the candidates in order or preference...  

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Rehberg VS. French (0.00 / 0)
That would be the match-up come November given the results Tuesday.  Wut say you, Progs?

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