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Kemmick on Payday Loans

by: Matt Singer

Mon Oct 11, 2010 at 09:01:06 AM MST


Ed Kemmick, the long-time Gazette reporter and columnist who has turned heads recently for his savage coverage of the Tea Party, turns his sights on the anti-predatory lending initiative moving toward a vote on November 2nd.

Supporters of the initiative (I consider myself one) owe it to themselves to grapple with Ed's arguments, which mostly center on his own concern that this is pretty damn patronizing. I may have some more thoughts later. Ed also attracted that rarest of all prizes -- a coherent comment on a newspaper website from someone writing under the name "Reality Check."

Ed; you got this one wrong. Back in the 70s I had occasion to take out my last high interest loan, it was 38% if I remember right. There were finance companies that specialized in this kind of credit, and I had used this company before. The difference was there was a $500 minimum, but you could always make an advance payment for what you didn't need, and you had a monthly payment for 12 or 24 months. You didn't have to come up with the whole nut in 2 weeks. I always paid mine back as fast as possible because there was no penalty for early repayment and I could control how much the loan cost that way. Last time I had to fix my car in Portland so I could get back to Montana for my summer work. Never held a grudge about the interest rate; understood the risk, felt it fair and saw the loans as necessary. The payday lenders and title pawn loan sharks saw a way to make a killing off of vulnerable people; you Ed are an exception, but still got ripped off. There is a better way... Peace to all, Reality
Ultimately, I still fall in favor of ending these exorbitantly high-interest operations in Montana. My own preference would be that we find ways to actually compete. I would imagine that if someone figured out how to offer similar loans at a lower cost, they could have a competitive business. Operating such a thing out of a non-profit would probably be a competitive advantage.

Like Ed, I've found myself in places where I wanted to take advantage of a payday loan. The time I tried to take one out, though, I wasn't employed; I was doing contract work. That apparently made me too much of a credit risk and I was denied a loan. I don't remember how I got through that cash crunch, but I apparently did. Given the choice between status quo and abolition of these loans, I'll choose abolition. But I do wish we could find more meaningful short-term credit options for low-income people.

Update -- Ed is getting some strong (and strongly supported) pushback in comments. I'd recommend checking it out.

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This may be a case where Montana can learn from what we've been doing in Oregon.

While Speaker of the Oregon House, now US Senator Jeff Merkley worked to enact and pass HB 2871: a 36% cap on all consumer lending, ending the practice of charging an average of 528% interest on short-term loans.

http://www.blueoregon.com/2007...

In effect, this legislation ended the predatory pay day loan practice in Oregon.  Following the demise of these predatory lending scams, Oregon banks and other financial institutions began to fill the void by offering short term loans at interest rates vastly lower than the pay day institutions.

Here's an interesting USA Today story on the successes and challenges of this kind of payday loan regulation:

http://www.usatoday.com/money/...


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are also getting into the payday lending alternative business:

http://montanacreditunions.coo...

There are two things that tick me off about Ed's column:

1. He accuses supporters of using anecdotal evidence in support of their initiative (false), and then proceeds to justify his entire opinion based upon his own personal, anecdotal experience. Statistics and studies on the financial harm the payday lending industry are easy to come by with a quick google search.

2. Maybe payday lending worked for Ed . . . But if you look at the most recent numbers from the Montana Division of Banking and Finance, you can extrapolate that over half of the payday loan volume goes to persons with 13 or more loans per year (using conservative data). This is a chronic, unending, cycle of debt, NOT a quick fix to an emergency need for cash.

Disclosure: I work on the initiative.  


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Missoula Federal Credit Union currently is advertising on the front page of its web site Payday Alternative Loans ("PALs"):

A short-term loan should help get you out of trouble, not into it. Credit unions have been making small loans to folks in need for more than 100 years...

A better option for most members, our P.A.L. is available in amounts of $100-500. No credit check required, but some membership and income minimums must be met. Apply online, using the unsecured personal loan link below.

Oh, and it is 18% APR.

If the credit union can do this, and has been doing this for "more than a hundred years", why can't a new market develop out of this model?

Too bad Kemmick didn't go on down to his credit union when he needed a loan, instead of the payday lender. And as to the pawn shop problem Ed had, what if he had had the same problem at the payday lender? That $200 loan would have cost him $25 every 2 weeks to renew, or he would have defaulted on the agreement, and had to suffer the legal consequences of that. And $25/biweekly? That's $650 dollars in fees over a single year, or 325% (which is less than he'd have to pay today).

Ed debunks the supporters of I-164 by using anecdotal evidence to support their claims. I would similarly use Ed's logic to debunk anyone wishing to use his words (which are nothing more than anecdotal evidence), as his story is decades old, and anachronistic (sorry Ed, but your story is so... 20th century).


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but not now...  http://4and20blackbirds.wordpr...  

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This may be a case where Montana can learn from what we've been doing in Oregon.  

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