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Wherefore art thou Superman?

by: Doug Coffin

Tue Dec 14, 2010 at 07:02:45 AM MST


Yes, we will indeed have to "Wait for Superman". Predictably, anyone watching the movie should come away with a different perspective. "Waiting for Superman" (WFS) is a powerful, compelling movie. I wholeheartedly agree with the central, core message of WFS: That is the absolute value and overiding need for excellence in public education in American society. The movie is absolutely correct that public education, along with equal protection under the law, provide the foundation of equality and opportunity for all. Anyone who ever thought that privatization of the public schools is any solution must be convinced otherwise.

The movie is exceptionally well made in both technical and artistic terms. If the personal, anecdotal stories of deprived inner city children don't touch your heart, then you don't have one. So WFS could easily convince virtually any viewer that the problem with the public education system, is exactly as defined: It is an uncaring, overtly bureaucratic system populated with too many lousy teachers and dominated by wretched unions that protect them; and the single solution to it all is charter schools. In those terms the movie, if it is supposed to be a documentary, is almost completely inaccurate in terms of defining the problems and proposing solutions.

Indeed, WFS could be defined as propaganda because it is about 90% true. WFS cleaverly strings together several half truths:
1. The inner city is populated by families where parents care for their children and want nothing but the best for them in terms of their education, but "the system" denies them. Indeed, the movie states outright that the surrounding problems in the environment do not cause the problems in the schools. Rather WFS proposes that it is the bad schools that cause the surrounding poverty and social dislocation. Reality: Dysfunctional families are one of the greatest challenges to public education and poor schools are intricately linked to dysfunctional families.
2. Funding for inner city schools is not an overriding problem, if only the money was spent on charter schools instead of public schools. Reality: Funding is not THE solution, but the solutions definitely involve costs that the public is not willing to support.
3. All students should be doctors and educated to the same level; all students should pass. It is the public school system, bad teachers and their unions that cause failure. Reality: No Child Left Behind made the same error. The ugly reality is that not all students will succeed, in spite of our best effort, be it a rural or urban, K-12 or higher ed setting, some students will fail. Teachers are not superheros. The medical equivalent is that some patients will die in spite of our best efforts.
4. There are some good teachers, but most of them are bad and need to be fired and the evil unions make firing a teacher virtually impossible. Reality: Teachers are much like most of other workforces in other domains. Some of them are great, most of them are good, and some of them are bad. In fact, bad teachers do get dismissed, but like most situations school HR departments prefer resignations, early retirements and other methods to absolute firing because it's a cheaper easier means to the end. Those numbers weren't included in WFS distorted data.
5. While unions may have been necessary years ago based on exploitation and abuse of teachers, they are no longer necessary because those problems don't exist anymore. Reality: Unions in public education are MORE necessary today not less, if only because of the viscous attacks on public education (see yesterday's posting).
6. Superman is Michelle Rhee. Idolatry is always tempting. Reality: If we want to fix our schools, colleges and universities, we're going to have to do it ourselves in a unified effort absent the ugly fingerpointing in WFS.

So, the movie does a great job in showing how depriving public education can devastate a child. However, it is overtly simplistic and completely inaccurate as to the root causes of that deprivation and niave its simple solutions.

I most certainly don't have all the answers. I thought that the movie did reveal one good point: That students from challenging environments need much more structure. Some of the charter schools are, in fact, academies where the the kids go and live. I think most would agree that's could be a solution for some failing schools. But who's going to pay for it? Not Joe Public in America today, they want their low taxes.

The mischaracterization of charter schools in WFS is ridiculous. Charter schools often spend at least twice as much per student as the surrounding public schools. Hence they can limit class size and provide much longer instructional time. Charter schools also cleverly cherry pick students by limiting applicants so that the lottery is already picking from among the best "applicants" not all students as depicted in WFS. Charter schools can also purge noncompliant (failing or truant) students. Those and a few other tricks easily produce 90%+ success rates, and even that depends on how we define success.

OK, enough criticism of WFS. Oh wait, how could I (of all people) forget its union bashing? I'm getting a little weary, but in simplest terms WFS is infected with the same goofy virus infecting employee/employer relationships in modern America. In our modern Guilded Age the pervasive attitude is workplace nirvana i.e. "my boss is really a good person and if I just do my job they'll take good care of me"; that companies never fire or abuse good employees; workers aren't entitled to pay raises because that increases the deficit and it's bad for business; and, of course, unions are the source of all evil.

I do know a few things here. Yes, unions are an imperfect solution to the natural, inherent adversarial relationship between employers and employees, but I've yet to see a better one. In perfect world we wouldn't need unions. But we don't live in a perfect world and the reality is unions are largely the result of bad management. In fact if you examine most workplaces the worse the management the stronger the union. Unions do end up, not to their own liking, in the unenviable position of "protecting bad employees" on occasion. However, if we have to protect one bad employee to protect five good ones, then so we must. Overall, unions do much more good than harm, and they will have to be included in any formulation that provides solutions. The similtaneous attack on both teachers and unions by the enemies of public education is not a accident. It's also not a solution.

The workplace for teachers, police, firefighters and most other public employees is often politicized by public management boards. Unions have evolved there to protect workers from the naked politics of the accompanying public opinion and whim. Years ago teachers were easily fired or abused because one key parent didn't like the class or their spoiled child didn't like the teacher. Those problems still live today, but unions have mitigated them. Removal of tenure and unions will simply bring us in one large circle where those same problems will be pervasive.    

Did WFS change my perspective? Absolutely. Did it provide any insights into the real problems and did it propose any real solutions: NO. In the public forum that followed, the panel and most of the audience at the Wilma seemed to see through WFS or at least they perceived that it was certainly not applicable to the Montana situation. One size does not fit all and there is no simple overriding solution.

One essential item leading to any solution that I know is that America fundamentally needs an attitude change when it comes to education. We need to embrace a true love of learning in a way that we have never before because our existence, as we know it, absolutely depends on it. Perhaps WFS will enhance that awakening, but it certainly fails to provide solutions by virtue of its divisive plundering of those who care most about educating Americans.

My favorite adage is that "Education isn't just about kids, it's about everyone, forever". The enemy is not the teacher or professor in the classrooom. Indeed, they need to be empowered to excel, not berated so that even the simplest achievements are a struggle. The real enemies are public apathy, indifference and negligence....and outright ignorance. So I guess WFS may achieve a few things, but in the end it leaves us all, like the inner city children, hoping for something magic to happen.
 

Doug Coffin :: Wherefore art thou Superman?
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All right Doug -

I have a some simple questions for you -

If Unions are more essential now than ever, why is it that in the private sector union membership declined by more than 2/3 from 1945 to 1998?

Would it be unfair to say that if unions are not necessary in the private sector, that they're not necessary in the public sector either?

After all, there are volumes of employment laws anymore, protecting workers from any and all discrimination, and unlawful termination.

And to go a step farther, if the USA were to mandate 195 day school years, and 40-50 hours a week of classroom time, and cutting back on summer breaks, like some other countries around the world would the unions step up and say "Great, now we can really educate the kids!" or would they fight for the status quo?

I look forward to your response.


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Hi Eric. First, we need to correct one fact. Union membership actually peaked in between the 50's and the late 70's and has declined since about 1980. Is there a coincidence there? Yes, that is when the Reagan administration began a full assault on organized labor that has just begun to abate. Needless to say that median wages have declined coincident with the decline in union membership, but not so much for workers who are still unionized. Indeed, unionized workers have higher average wages and more job satisfaction than a non-unionized workplace. The good news is that union membership has started to slowly increase since 2007.

The government has been bought and paid for by corporate America since the 1980's. WFS was really lying when they talked about unions influencing government. Union contribution to politicians pale in comparison to corporate donations and "Citizens United" will only make that problem worse. At least unions fully disclose the sources of of all their contributions, I'd challenge all others to do the same.

So obviously I take issue with the "need" for unions in either the public or private sector: They're obviously necessary in both, because collective bargaining and education/training are the only  means to protect wages.

If you pay teachers enough, many of them would work longer hours and more days.... but not for free....would you?

Doug Coffin


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More days? (0.00 / 0)
They work about nine months now right?

Thanks for your reply - at least you were honest, and didn't try to say the teachers union was concerned about the kids -  


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I can't help but notice, Doug, that all of the arguments that movie makes, from your perspective, are incredibly easy to knock down.  If I got to write everyone else's opinion in my own fashion, I imagine I'd make them sound a lot dumber than they actually are too.  For instance, this is how I would characterize the arguments of you and everyone else who seems to think that there aren't any fundamental problems with our education system as it stands today:

1.  Parents suck!
2.  These darn kids just don't learn as good as we teach 'em.
3.  No Child Left Behind sucks!
4.  People are mean to teachers!

Man, those are some pretty dumb arguments that you didn't make, aren't they?  But I suppose I could be nicer about it and actually respond to the arguments that you did make.  

The inner city is populated by families where parents all care for their children and want nothing but the best for them in terms of their education, but "the system" denies them

I challenge you to find the part of the movie where they make the argument that all inner city parents care for their children and want what's best for them.  Although it's typical of Union-types to blame parents and NCLB for everything, that's a mighty act of distortion on your part.
The point the movie DOES make is that for those inner-city parents who do want what's best for their children, there are very few, if any options under our current system, continuing the cycle of poverty in our inner cities.

All children are capable of being educated to the same level. There are no inherent differences in terms of aptitude or achievement among individuals. It is the public school system, bad teachers and their unions that cause failure. Reality: No Child Left Behind made the same error. The ugly reality is that not all children, in spite of our best effort, will succeed. The medical equivalent is that some patients will die in spite of our best efforts.

The movie never makes that argument.  But once again, it's typical Union-type fair to blame the children for not learning good enough. That whole passage is actually kind of disgusting.

There are some good teachers, but most of them are bad and need to be fired and the unions make firing a teacher virtually impossible.

The movie never says that most teachers are bad.  That's not even a deliberate distortion on your part, it's just a lie.

I haven't been teaching that long, but I've been doing it long enough to see that most teachers are over-worked, underpaid, and really, really good at what they do.  But I've also seen some bad, downright awful teachers in action as well.  And they all had one thing in common - they knew their Union rep, they never talked to the principal without a lawyer present, and they know every single possible string to pull to keep their job for eternity, no matter how badly they perform.

No one should fault the union for this - it's their job to protect every single one of their employees.  And lots of Administrators just don't have the stones to stand up to the Unions to get these bad teachers fired.  But at the end of the day, protecting bad teachers is not what's best for students.

And just so you know, I don't have a solution to this.  But to say that Unions don't represent part of the problem takes some pretty big blinders on your part.

While unions may have been necessary years ago based on exploitation and abuse of teachers, they are no longer necessary because those problems don't exist anymore

The movie never makes that argument.  It's not a right-wing movie, as much as you appear to want to convince yourself that it is...

As for everything else in your post, you're right about their needing to be a public attitude shift when it comes to education.  There is an anti-teacher attitude out there that is pervasive and absolutely disgusting.  I've seen it in person a few times - actually, the two times in my adult life that I've been the closest to getting in a fight was with people who found out I was a teacher and hated me as a result (The whole lack of crucifixes in schools was probably the crux of those problems).  

The bottom line is that Unions don't represent the best interest of the students.  But that's not a bad thing - they're not SUPPOSED to work in the best interest of the students, they're supposed to work in the best interests of their members - teachers.  

Unfortunately, some of those teachers just aren't very good - which is why Teacher's Unions are against common sense things like merit pay (gasp!) and any kind of accountability (testing) that could possibly be built into the system to hold teachers accountable for what they teach.  Those kinds of reforms would be bad for a lot of teachers, but they would be good for a lot of other teachers - and, more importantly, good for the students.  

Our public education system is simply not very good in this country.  It's not as if bad parenting and achievement gaps don't exist in other countries - but they still manage to teach their kids better than we teach ours.  Something's gotta change - and I don't think that the movie makes the argument that Charter schools are the end-all, be-all of a fix in the system, but they're certainly not a BAD thing.  The only thing they threaten is the entrenched system and the people entrenched in it.  And if that gets some people fired, so be it - provided it's better for the students.  And I haven't seen any proof that it isn't.


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Hi Steve. I'd have to support my argument that WFS definitely distorts the inner city picture. I've lived and worked in those places, I've been (subbed) in the schools, and know teachers who worked there. The picture in WFS is totally distorted. Those schools are more like war zones. Teachers are spat on, insulted, threatened and assaulted; not the docile classrooms in shown in WFS. Needless to say that not many good teachers, or students, choose to stay in those environments.

The entire picture is an inordinately complicated mileu of social, educational and economic problems. WFS definitely places unfair blame on the schools and the teachers in particular. That's just wrong. Schools are neither the entire problem nor solution. WFS is overtly simplistic in those arguments. I would agree with you and WFS that the real victims are kids who want better and want out, but that's not the blame of teachers or unions. There are no simple solutions, but there definitely needs to be more money and that isn't forthcoming.... and I am sorry, but inner city or anywhere, K-12 or higher ed, some students fail and there isn't ever going to be system where that doesn't happen. That is a harsh reality. We can only do our best, we can't change the facts of life.

I would agree that the primary duty of a teachers union is to represent teachers. But that doesn't mean that they don't represent the best interests of students too. I don't know how you can argue that the best thing for a student is a great teacher and then argue that what's good for teachers isn't good for students? WFS, you and the anti-education/anti-unionists do the same and it makes no sense.

Most teachers and unions argue FOR better evaluation systems (hence more accountability), but they need to be fair. Administrators are always looking for loopholes to exploit and selectively apply standards. Moreover, good evaluation systems cost money that most aren't willing to pay. That would allow more of what you and others ask for; but it can only be achieved through more cooperation, not the flack that WFS throws out. It is definitely a very divisive movie...and it does so based on bad information and distortion of the facts. I do confess that unions are not perfect, far from it, but on the whole they are far more beneficial than harmful.
 

Doug Coffin


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teaching can only be done in an environment where good behavior is the norm (0.00 / 0)
private schools have an easier job because if your kid doesn't behave, he's gone- pffft like that. it isn't tolerated. bad behavior punished. good behavior is rewarded.

public school teachers don't have that kind of support from their administration. it is one of the reasons that bullying is so prevalent. aggressive behavior is not punished.

and we all know that when bad behavior is rewarded we can only expect to get more of it.

you couldn't pay me enough to teach in a public school. and anyone who is doing it for even decent wages, is a saint.


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After reading your comments, I did realize that item #4 in my posting could be misinterpreted. I've changed it for clarification. Obviously I didn't mean it that way... but I owe you a thanks for pointing it out.

Doug Coffin

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Howdy,

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Sponsored by the Industrial Workers of the World / IWW
  i'm trying to get the BEA's president to be on. I had Darrell Johnson president of the Greater Yellowstone Central Labor Council on with his Sgt Arms Robert Fuller this last Wed.
   Privatization of Education is pure Union Busting.

    it sounds like the WFS is a waste of time.

     ...a bloody crucifix in every room with a little kid nailed to it should help with the discipline issues --- except that Prisons are Totally full of Believers

             Will Crain
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