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Ouch! How does that feel?

by: Jay Stevens

Tue Jun 26, 2007 at 11:37:29 AM MST


Stanley Kurz on President Bush's immigration bill:

Something about this immigration battle doesn't sit well. For all the bitterness of our political battles, there's at least the sense that the government responds to the drift of public opinion. The Republicans in Congress turned into big spenders and the war in Iraq went poorly. As a result the Democrats prospered in 2006, if narrowly. That's how democracy works. Our politics are often angry and ugly (and that's a problem), but this is because the public is deeply divided on issues of great importance. Deep down, we understand that our political problems reflect our own divisions.

Somehow this immigration battle feels different. The bill is wildly unpopular, yet it's close to passing. The contrast with the high-school textbook version of democracy is not only glaring and maddening, it's downright embarrassing. Usually, even when we're at each others' throats, there's still an underlying pride in the democratic process. This immigration battle strips us of even that pride.

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You can't solve an argument by imposing a "compromise" on parties who don't actually view it as a compromise. You can't heal social divisions by forcing your version of a "solution" down the public's throats. Real healing comes only when two sides reach what they themselves consider a valid compromise, or when one side wins the argument by persuading a clear majority of the validity of its case. Democracy does work, but first the Senate has got to give it a try.

Ezra Klein:

How many times have polls shown that Americans want a timetable for withdrawal? How many times have Republicans and the White House beat legislation in service of those sentiments back? And how many times has Stanley Kurtz written angry posts demanding that the government accept the will of the people?

Kurtz is all for small-d democracy. At least when its outcomes agree with his prejudices.

I admit it's been fun watching how previously gung-ho, pro-Bush conservatives react when the President questions their patriotism while shoving unpalatable and unpopular legislation down their throats.

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Can Anyone Find a Poll (0.00 / 0)
that says the immigration bill is wildly unpopular?  Everything I have seen is quite to the contrary, including a 54/39 split by the Pew Research Center if the bill is characterized as amnesty. 

I'm just growing sick of conservatives saying that America opposes the bill, because there just isn't proof. 


I do think America opposes the bill... (0.00 / 0)
...for different reasons.

Amnesty may be popular, country-wide, but a lot of progressives and Latinos are uncomfortable with the guest worker provisions, etc, the denial of amnesty for immediate family members.

Apparently Latino advocacy groups are split on the bill because it doesn't go far enough.

So, yeah, the country hates the bill, but for a variety of reasons.


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