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"Let them go to emergency rooms"

by: Jay Stevens

Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 11:12:59 AM MST


You want to know why our health care industry is messed up? Why politicians continue to kow tow to the insurance and pharmaceutical industries? George W. Bush:

"The immediate goal is to make sure there are more people on private insurance plans. I mean, people have access to health care in America," he said. "After all, you just go to an emergency room."

The callousness and ignorance in this quote could fill a stadium.

Jay Stevens :: "Let them go to emergency rooms"
Krugman:

This is what you might call callousness with consequences. The White House has announced that Mr. Bush will veto a bipartisan plan that would extend health insurance ... to an estimated 4.1 million currently uninsured children. After all, it's not as if those kids really need insurance -- they can just go to emergency rooms, right?...

Mr. Bush['s] ... willful ignorance here is part of a larger picture: by and large, opponents of universal health care paint a glowing portrait of the American system that bears as little resemblance to reality as the scare stories they tell about health care in France, Britain, and Canada.

Increasingly it's not just the poor that are getting screwed by the insurance industry. In order to feed its need for ever-increasing profits, the industry is bending the rest of us over tables, too.

The question is, why are we letting them get away with it? Health care shouldn't be limited to only the handful of super-rich. It's something we should all have access to, and not in a way that would bankrupt hard-working Americans.

Like the rest of industrialized Western nations, Americans should not have to worry about financial ruin because of times of illness. We have enough resources in this country to ensure that we all have quality health care. And Michael Moore is right. It's time to decide what kind of people we are, whether we prefer to support a few people's "right" to make as much money as they want at the cost of our health and even our lives, or whether we believe in helping our neighbors in time of need.

Oh, and here's a bonus money quote from Krugman:

On the other hand, it's true that Americans get hip replacements faster than Canadians. But there's a funny thing about that example, which is used constantly as an argument for the superiority of private health insurance over a government-run system: the large majority of hip replacements in the United States are paid for by, um, Medicare.

That's right: the hip-replacement gap is actually a comparison of two government health insurance systems. American Medicare has shorter waits than Canadian Medicare (yes, that's what they call their system) because it has more lavish funding -- end of story. The alleged virtues of private insurance have nothing to do with it.

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Beginning of the end. (0.00 / 0)
Indeed, many Americans do have to resort to the Emergency Room if they get sick. This is a bad thing for the hospital, which has to provide care in one of the costliest settings in the system. For the patient it could mark the beginning of the process of bankruptcy, or in the case of those without signifigant assets or legal help, a raid on their checking or savings account. Even if they avoid eviction and homelessness folks in this position are forced to then live a cash-only outlaw existence without access to debit cards, fee-less chack cashing or any nominal credit. Next time the kids out-grow their beds, it's the rent-to-(never)own store. Next time they need a financial bridge, it's the title-loan shark. Soon they may even lose the POS car they got an $85 loan on. Thank You Mr. Bush, for your keen understanding of the situation.

Drop out! (0.00 / 0)
The whole concept of ?health care? is perverted in techno-scientific society. The reason for high costs of ?health care? is allopathic medicine?s emphasis on pharmaceutical drugs and surgical intervention as prescriptions for ?health.? Real health is NOT expensive! Hippocrates: ?Nature is active without training and without schooling.? Buckminster Fuller: ?Nature never has to stop to calculate before behaving in the most economical manner.? Don?t buy into techno-scientific ?health care? plans. Live free and be truly healthy without literally spending an arm or a leg (or hip)!

The chucklehead is so out of touch.... (0.00 / 0)
..I'm surprised he still has fingers.

Which would a chucklehead choose? (0.00 / 0)
Consider forest management: An extreme interventionist strategy might recommend clear cutting as a "healthy forest" management tool, while non-interventionist forest health practitioners might recommend allowing natural fire cycles to occur, thus regenerating forests in accordance with their own natural needs and terms. Which would a "chucklehead" choose?

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And this relates to aformentioned thread of healthcare how? (0.00 / 0)
Having known quite well a number of Emergency Medical professionals in Missoula and beyond this statement by Shrub goes beyond disturbing.  Insinuating that meticulously trained & ferociously underpaid Emergency Responders who collaborate with other trained professionals in a emergency setting are somehow the answer to every uninsured Americans health care solutions is insulting.  ER nurses, docs & first responders who put their lives, families, & carriers on the line everyday deserve respect and admiration, not a condescending, uneducated, shortsighted statement from the chucklehead running our country right now.  In many respects, these folks are similar to our men & women in the armed forces and deserve  the respect they've earned choosing the carriers they have.

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My mistake! (0.00 / 0)
I didn't realize the "chucklehead" you were referring to was Bush. I took it as a reference to my non-interventionist attitude toward "health care." I was following up with a non-interventionist "healthy forest" analogy. You are totally right about "chucklehead" Bush, as far as his insane "emergency room" comment, but I think "chucklehead" is too, too kind a word in describing that guy!

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