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The Bizarre Double Standards of Dan McGee

by: Matt Singer

Tue Nov 28, 2006 at 13:53:31 PM MST


Jay is all over this, but I want to throw in my two cents as well. A bunch of Republicans seem to think that Sam Kitzenberg committed some great travesty by switching political parties two years after his last election (in that election he was primaried and the state party apparently supported his primary opponent).

At the same time that these Republicans howl that Kitzenberg will be considered a Democrat, they demand that Rick Jore be counted as a Republican. Now, Jore has not been a Republican for six years. He left the party in 2000 and he ran in a legislative district this year in a race where Republicans got precisely 0 votes.

Matt Singer :: The Bizarre Double Standards of Dan McGee
Now, let's be clear. Party affiliation really means one thing: who do you vote for in leadership elections. It's really not much of a big deal beyond that. It also determines who gets to give you committee assignments, but that's theoretically because the people you agree to support in your caucus then get a say in where you get assigned (and some of this is theoretical, minority party folks get a say in committee assignments insofar as the majority party is willing to extend it as a courtesy).

So, Sam Kitzenberg comes back, decides he prefers Democratic leadership to Republican leadership and says he'll make it happen by switching caucuses. That's at least what we could call honest. In comparison, just two years ago, in the House, a bizarre group of Democrats and Republicans joined together to elect a Speaker who had the support of neither caucus. This time, the Republicans want the Constitutionalist member to count as a Republican for procedural issues (i.e. when party affiliation matters), but not to be treated as a Republican on substantive issues (i.e. when party affiliation never matters anyway).

If McGee is really terrified of people voting in ways for leadership that are an affront to the little letter behind the name that people back home pulled the lever for -- he should firmly put his foot down and yell at his House compatriots for their actions two years ago and this year. Or he should just realize that, ultimately, the individual is elected and gets to choose which caucus to join.

Kitzenberg had the decency to know that if he was, for all intents and purposes, changing parties, he needed to do it for real. If the GOP has a problem, they can try to recall him.

Similarly, if the GOP wants Rick Jore to be a Republican, they can ask him to switch parties. If his constituents have a problem, they can recall him. But party affiliation isn't a blood oath. It's simply a statement of loyalties.

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Where are the ethics? (0.00 / 0)
What happened to the new-found ethics the Democrats campaigned on?

Kitzenberg switching parties looks like a political payoff to the Schweitzer administration here, and you know it.


It looks like that 'cause that's how you want it to look (0.00 / 0)
Kitzenberg had been all but run out of the party a long time ago. You guys tried to primary him out. You attacked him repeatedly. When he took the job with the state, you attacked him for being unethical.

And after attacking him, trying to run him out of the party, and accusing him of being unethical, you accused him of being bought off when he said he'd no longer be loyal to you.

Let me ask you this, Eric, how long would you keep playing for a team that repeatedly made clear -- privately and publicly -- that they thought you were the scum of the Earth?

If you say you'd stick it out, you're a dumber man than Sam Kitzenberg.


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McGee (0.00 / 0)
If the administration gave me a nice, unadvertised job, I'd feel obligated to help out the Governor also.

The difference is that I'd admit it.


There it is. (0.00 / 0)
So what you're saying is that if someone gave you a big fat campaign contribution and then you helped that person to enact their agenda - that is wrong and you would admit to it.

Excuse me while I piss myself from laughter.


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more (0.00 / 0)
Don't wet yourself yet! At my job, we owe much of our business to federal highway funding.

Since Max always pulls in money for Montana on those bills, I will support him in '08. I admit it. Is there something wrong there?


Eric, are threaded comments too complicated? (0.00 / 0)
I've got to admit my confusion. Everyone else seemed to take to 'em. When you want to reply to someone's comments, hit the 'reply' button. That way, conversations stay together and people can move on to a different thread.

It keeps things a lot cleaner.


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Denial (0.00 / 0)
What is wrong here is that you have spent the last year - at least - denying that Burns had done anything wrong when he accepted a big fat campaign contribution and then helped Abramhoff enact his agenda. Even though Abramhoff's agenda went against Burns' stances on the issues (Burns supported means testing for tribes, yet got an earmark for additional funding for an already rich tribe).

And now you have the gall to accuse the Gov and Kitzenberg of the same impropriety even though Kitzenberg's switch flows along with his beliefs and stances on issues.

I would throw you a bone on this issue if Jore, Koopman, Sinrud or their ilk had switched. But they didn't - the most liberal Republican switched parties - a person that is acting in line with his beliefs. It's not hard to fanthom why - especially with your party tacking to the right even more.

The same phenomenom is happening all across the country. You are leaving people behind. Heck, the party left me behind a few years back.



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It would be wonderful if............... (0.00 / 0)
It would be wonderful if John Cobb, a republican and a good man, were to come over to the Dem side too.  John is a real man of integrity.  I don't understand how he can stand to be in the company of the slimeballs he has to deal with on the Rethugli side.  He told them off REAL good a couple'a years ago.  I think that the slimeballs are deathly afraid of John.  They know that he has the respect of everybody in Helena and are afraid to cross him.  Still, I think that John would  find a very welcoming home in the Democrat party.  He's a class act.

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