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Bush holds himself above the law; impeachment looks better every day

by: Jay Stevens

Fri Jul 20, 2007 at 11:23:42 AM MST


The latest from the Bush administration is pretty astonishing:
Bush administration officials unveiled a bold new assertion of executive authority yesterday in the dispute over the firing of nine U.S. attorneys, saying that the  Justice Department will never be allowed to pursue contempt charges initiated by Congress against White House officials once the president has invoked executive privilege.

Basically, the administration is boldly saying he'll never let his "loyal Bushies" investigate his activities.

Legal experts are taken aback. Congress' only action -- which is also its best option -- is to use its inherent contempt powers, which allows it to hire its own special counsel. Mark Keiman details other possible steps, including seizure of documents, and arrest of administration officials by Congress' Seargeants-at-Arms, or cutting off funding for the DoJ and other administration bureaucracies.

Jay Stevens :: Bush holds himself above the law; impeachment looks better every day
There are roadblocks. Kossak Kagro X reminds us, should this come to the SCOTUS, that when the Reagan White House thwarted a similar attempt, now Chief Justice John Roberts helped craft the strategy. That's why Tom Wright thinks the Bush administration is pursuing the issue this way: to get Congress' investigations into the courts, and thus --"fatally"? -- slow the march to impeachment, or to derail it altogether. (There are those who think Bush's delay tactics are for more sinister reasons. Brrr.)

And folks are indeed clamoring for impeachment. And why not? After all, the President is now threatening to make this kind of executive authority precedent. And Republican lapdogs who now protect their President at all costs, will no doubt feel differently about executive privilege under a Hilary Clinton presidency, yet the precedent will be there to fold. That is, any sane self-preserving member of Congress should want impeachemnt.

Yet...what about those 66 Senate votes?

Mark Kleiman thinks the GOPers will be forced to realize impeachment is the way to go:

And I suspect that a combination of institutional self-respect and electoral self-preservation will lead a substantial number of Republicans to desert the President. They've been looking for an excuse, and he just handed it to them.

I agree with Publius on this one, though. I don't think Congressional Republicans will oppose the President. They have neither the stones to oppose the kool-aid base nor the vision or integrity to do the right thing. Don't believe me? I think Red State's streiff pretty much represents the kind of idiocy you'll hear:

I think the current kerfuffle over the firing of a a handful of presidential appointees is one of the most disgraceful, superficial, and childish acts by Congress since the October Surprise investigation instigated by the aptly named Gary Sick. The president can fire appointees because he is displeased with their hair color or choice of snack foods. This isn't a news flash to anyone who's familiar with that system.

To these *sshats, it's all a big game. It doesn't matter what the actual issue is or its outcome as long as you win. In this world-view, anything the Democrats do must be viewed as political jockeying, pure and simple. It's what the Republicans would do, after all.

And remember, it's these people who questioned your patriotism and accused you of treason because you doubted the President's word on WMDs or his strategy in Iraq or his use of warrantless wiretapping, kidnapping, and torture. But it's pretty obvious now that they don't know the meaning of patriotism.

Still, I don't think we should let Republican loyalty to party over country and principle deter us from seeking impeachment. These people in the end do want to remain in obvious. Once the details come out, voting to preserve the President will prove to be an electoral albatross for years to come.

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I wonder if it's possible to impeach and try Bush and Cheney together or if they have to be gone after one at a time.  It wouldn't do much good to remove Bush and leave Cheney in charge.

Granted... (0.00 / 0)
Given that fear it shouldn't act as a deterrent to seek justice. I forsee Cheney going first, then Bush. But we should take 'em as we can.

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You can......... (0.00 / 0)
wish for impeachment all you want, but it ain't gonna happen.  Too many cowardly democrats in the Senate who should themselves be thrown out on their asses.  Reid and Feinstein to name two.  So keep on beating your drums and your gums if it makes ya happy.

By the way, just in case you missed it.  Bush's approval rating is 34 while your democrat controlled Congress has a whopping 14.  Says a lot, doesn't it?


Actually, Squid (0.00 / 0)
It's the House that impeaches, not the Senate.  And if the Dmocratically controlled House does find the nads to impeach, then you're right ... the Senate won't convict.  But it won't be because of cowardly Democrats.  It would be because of the diaper wearing Republicans too terrified of Bush to remember the job they are supposed to be doing for the people.

We'll get to take a good look at them this weekend. I understand that National Geographic is sending a team to study them in their native habitat ... up Bush's ass.


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I thought about that, Woof......... (0.00 / 0)
but I fingered Mathelo would call my attention to who does the impeaching and who conducts the trial first.  Actually, who gives a fork which end of the turd does what, it smells the same either way.

Hmmmmm!!!  Republicans up Bush's ass and the democrats between Hillary's thighs.  I think the survival rate will be much higher on the republican side.

I love ya, Woof, you bees my favorite fur bearing animal.......:~)



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Sorry (0.00 / 0)
Wulfgar got to you before I could.

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Here's what Bush... (0.00 / 0)
needs to be impeached for....
http://www.worldnetd...
that and joining with democrats in the stupid amnesty bill.

Given that (0.00 / 0)
Do you really care what we impeach him for? If this is such a sin then what should you care for what reason he goes down, as long as he's going down? Call your congressman. Tell him to impeach.

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Reality of Impeachment and Sitting Republicans (0.00 / 0)
While I have been advocating Impeachment ever since the Supreme Court ruled that BushCo has violated both International and American law, I have less confidence that it will occur now than I did when I first advocated it. The reasoning is fairly simple.

Republicans are in a very sticky situation for 2008. The Democrats coming up for election (both House and Senate) are, for the most part, fairly safe in thier re-election bids. This can certainly not be said of the Republicans. Further, with the current Republican President being such a waste of human flesh, any Republican Candidate for President will have to overcome the general public's distaste for the outgoing "Decider" to vote for "Business as Usual". While Clinton, Obama or Richards may be distasteful for many self styled conservatives, the idea of electing King (insert name here) to take over where Bush left off may be more distasteful.

If the sitting Republicans agree to Impeachment hearings, it may asuage some of the voters, but it certainly will hurt the chances of ANY Republican running for office. Look at what happened every time an Impeachment has been voted on - the party of the Impeachee suffered.

It is unfortunate that King Bush will not be held accountable for his actions (we are suppose to be a country of law...) but politics will win in this case, as it has in almost every case for the last decade...

Moorcat


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