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Defending Edwards from our Chamber of Commerce

by: Jay Stevens

Thu Aug 09, 2007 at 10:14:35 AM MST


Jon at the Montana Main Street Blog is shocked -- shocked! - that Democratic presidential candidate, John Edwards, poo-pooed Fortune magazine and considers his rhetoric reflecing "a dangerous animosity to free enterprise and economic growth."

The "animosity" is well earned -- not towards "free enterprise" and "economic growth," which, in this context, is relevant only for a tiny subset of Americans -- but towards corporatism, which has a real and negative effect on millions of Americans.

Watch this video if you don't know what I mean.

Jon also trashes Edwards for being wealthy and advocating for the working poor:

...does anyone else find it hilarious that a multi-millionaire who lives in a massive North Carolina mansion thinks he doesn't quite fit on a cover of a magazine entitled "Fortune?"

Why is this any less hypocritical than someone making middle-class wages advocating big business interests? Like, say, manning a blog that advocates policies that exclusively benefit the super-wealthy? Fair's fair: shouldn't that logic bite both ways?

Update: Jon misconstrued this post, assuming I was calling him a hypocrite, too. I wasn't. My point is that folks from all walks of life are entitled to their beliefs. I'm not a big fan of "class loyalty."

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What a tool (0.00 / 0)
Your post says:

"...but towards corporatism, which has a real and negative effect on millions of Americans."

Your blog says that you are a partner in a small business that makes t-shirts. So I guess you're part of the "corporatism" that negatively effects millions of Americans. Right?

What kind of a tool runs a small business and then bashes the very mechanism by which he exists? You are, what Ayn Rand referred to, a "looter". You bash capitalism while sucking off its tit.

Hypocrite.

Please define "corporatism" for us. You apparently know something we don't. Please also tell me how corporations that employee tens of millions of Americans putting food on their table and money in their pocket negatively effects millions of Americans. Tell me how American corporation that keep the motor of the entire world running are apparently screwing billions of people.

Its one thing to be an uneducated tool and toe the party line. Its another entirely evil and unethical thing to bite the hand that feeds you. If its so bad then maybe you ought to close up shop. If profit is so horrible then why are you taking it? Or are you? Maybe that's the real issue.

Get a life. 

P.S. what kind of lame blog makes you create an account before you can post a comment? Figure it out. Also I love the DP productions Web site. I felt like I was back in 1998. Thanks for the memories!


thanks for dropping by (0.00 / 1)
A little simplistic and antagonistic, but I get your essential point.

Here's a news flash: I like capitalism. I thrive under it.

But, seriously fella, you'd have to be a complete moron if you think unfettered capitalism doesn't pose dangers. If you're actually interested in a dialog (which I somehow doubt), check out a post on this I wrote a while back.

See, I don't fall for the "free market" rhetoric calling for deregulation, which, IMHO, only leads to the agglomeration of capitol, the death of innovation, the creation of an aristocratic class, and the extinction of democracy. But I'm a partisan hack and an alarmist.

And just because you've never heard of corporatism, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. (Don't fret: I blame our underfunded school systems.)

Oh yeah, I kinda think the UI on LiTW is a little lame, too.


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Fail again (1.00 / 1)
Claiming to like capitalism then turning around and bashing profits is hypocrisy at its worst.

Stop lying. Its OK to tell the world you're a socialist. We prefer you just come clean now instead of continuing to look and act like a moron.

"See, I don't fall for the 'free market' rhetoric calling for deregulation, which, IMHO, only leads to the agglomeration of capitol, the death of innovation, the creation of an aristocratic class, and the extinction of democracy. But I'm a partisan hack and an alarmist."

Bhahaha! Do you seriously think we're buying this? Stop trying to act intelligent. Stop spewing your freshman year political science professor's BS. Turn your brain on. Regardless of what you say or believe the current system's realities prove you wrong. Free markets enrich societies. Free markets pull up groups not hold them down. Free markets promote democracy.

And, yes - you are a partisan hack and an alarmist. You're also uneducated and bitter.

Fail. 


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...it's telling... (0.00 / 0)
...that you haven't argued against anything substantive I've written in this post and elsewhere.

If your rude, semi-coherent rambling represents "turning your brain on," I'd rather keep mine off.

Good luck with that, and don't let the door hit you in the *ss on the way out.


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Its been fun (0.00 / 1)
Jay:

Its been fun.

P.S. Make any profit off those Google ads you're runing on the site?

Fail...again.


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It's not his site (0.00 / 0)
Moron. Hehehehe

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He is missing something... (2.00 / 2)
What your jackass is missing is that the world is not bivalent, but lets explore it as though it were.

From his perspective, since you sometimes support social programs, you could not possibly support and receive benefits from capitalism in any form. No google ads, nothing.

Since he supports capitalist ideas, he could never support or receive benefits from social endeavors. Therefore, he must never use the road system in this country, police or fire protection, cheap food (farm subsidies) public libraries, mail or schools or anything that is a result of those social programs. That means that he can not shop at stores, because there products are delivered via the road a railway system... I could go on forever.


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No, he is missing something (0.00 / 0)
You could go on forever and you would still sound like a moron. Thanks for not going on forever.

General services provided by the government for which some taxation is essential (like roads) is of course acceptable. Capitalism does not mean no taxation.

By the way, cheap food is not a result of farm subsides (its called supply and demand), public libraries are being replaced by the Internet, mail is obsolete and schools are paid for by local property tax - not the federal government. Also, the rail system in this country is, for the most part, privately owned - that's why it works so well.

Figure it out.


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Apparently you're an idiot (0.00 / 0)
I have a t-shirt company. Jay Stevens also writes here. As can anyone who registers. What kind of lame blog requires registration? One that also allows anyone to write a diary. Finally, as for being a partner, that term usually indicates a partnership, not a corporation, so again, you're an idiot.

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reminds me of this pic... (0.00 / 0)
Remember this dude?

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