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Clinton backers jumping ship (0.00 / 0)

This was a poll taken of Democrats, right? And Clinton has been getting more support from Democrats, right? The poll is kind of missing something. Ask a few Independent voters in the Obamanation and find out how many of them are loyal to a party they are not loyal to.

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by: Mathello @ Wed Mar 26, 2008 at 17:04:32 PM CDT

If the new Clinton threat (0.00 / 0)

is to make the case that the Dems have the most to lose if she loses the nomination, because more of her supporters will cross over and vote for McCain, well then maybe they really aren't Democrats anymore, anyways.

Maybe its just time to let them go to join hands with all the Bush-lovers in their anti-Obama fervor.

And maybe the Democratic party just needs a good purge of dead weight.

Or maybe the visionary, hope and change wing of the Democratic party needs to reach out to Independents and 3rd party elements (like the Greens) and form the New Democratic Party of the 21st century.

Clinton's Benedict Arnold routine is just getting very, very old. But maybe that's her plan--hand the presidency to McCain by destroying Obama so she can come to the rescue in 2012. It can't get much uglier than that.

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by: JC @ Wed Mar 26, 2008 at 18:08:36 PM CDT

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Right (0.00 / 0)

Because she was able to contact 28% of her supporters and told them to answer in favor of sabatoge.  

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by: Mathello @ Wed Mar 26, 2008 at 21:18:20 PM CDT

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Now they're calling them McCain Democrats (0.00 / 0)

Republicans swoop in to pick off the remains of democrats cast-off by their disillusionment with the party. "Ne'er the twain shall meet?"

GOP Looks to 'McCain Democrats'

The new analysis, calculated from a compilation of Gallup's daily polls between March 7 and 22, seems to indicate that there are more "McCain Democrats" than the much-ballyhooed "Obama Republicans" - or "Obamacans," as they are sometimes referred to.

McCain Democrats=Hillary defectors.

Such be where we are in a primary campaign where the democratic nominees have to spend their time tearing each other down, instead of focusing on the real battle ahead--with John McCain and the republican attack machine.

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by: JC @ Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 14:29:25 PM CDT

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And by all means they should (0.00 / 0)

If we didn't start goose stepping to the media's tune in 2004 we might have had a decent candidate. If a Democrat can't tough it out against another Democrat then how are they gonna take on a Republican? It's perfectly healthy that they are cutting each other down. It's the only way to build them up. All politicians need a few battle scars and war wounds.

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by: Mathello @ Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 14:41:30 PM CDT

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What you say might be good for a candidate, (0.00 / 0)

but it ain't necessarily good for the party. You would splinter the party to beef up your candidate?

In Hillary's case, if she wasn't tough enough to win the nomination before taking on Obama, well them 32 years experience--including two presidential campaigns--she's touting weren't worth anything, then.

And in Obama's case, he seems to be toughing it out just fine. He can win this one by taking the high road and watching Hillary disintegrate as the public and the media become disaffected with her tactics and failing strategy of needing the super-d's to take the nomination away from Obama.

The Democrats don't need a bloodied nominee in order to beat the Republicans. McCain's "4 more years" battle cry for the continuation of Bushdom is self-defeatist in the worst way. Better for Obama to hone his skills dissecting McCain's agenda and Bush's failed presidency.

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by: JC @ Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 15:28:58 PM CDT

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It's not just McCain (0.00 / 0)

He'll have a lot to do. Deal with Congress (both D's and R's). An opposition DoD. The World. He needs to muscle up, and if what she's doing is bloodying him too badly then maybe he shouldn't be in this. He should try to throw a couple punhces at her.

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by: Mathello @ Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 15:37:19 PM CDT

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As I said, Obama's doing fine. (0.00 / 0)

It's the Democratic party that stands to lose--no matter who emerges the victor, if that battle rages on for too long.

If anything, Clinton's paying a huge price for her campaign's tactics in the last few weeks. Her negatives are way up, and her positives way down. If she's intending on bloodying him so she can win, it's not going to work.

If anything, she's bloodying him so the Democratic party looses, so she can ride in on the white horse in 2012 to save the day. Not.  

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by: JC @ Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 16:53:39 PM CDT

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Bah (0.00 / 0)

I read that article too. It's as crazy as it is stupid. And it's a terrible remark to say Clinton is hurting the party and not Obama. If he doesn't win it's because he was the wrong man to put up. If she doesn't win then she was the wrong person to put up. It's that simple.  

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by: Mathello @ Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 17:18:25 PM CDT

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Your link on my piece goes to Glenn Greenwald ... (0.00 / 0)

Not that I pay attention, mind you ..  

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by: Mark Tokarski @ Wed Mar 26, 2008 at 17:52:25 PM CDT

I truly trust (0.00 / 0)

Just as I chided the Republicans who claimed that they would rather die choking on their own vomit than to vote for McCain ... for now endorsing McCain, I suggest that many who claim they won't vote for Clinton, will.  Similarly, many who claim that they won't vote Obama will be loud voices for his favor after the convention.

People want what they want, and like Veruca Salt will scream if they don't get it.  But they will settle for something ... else.

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by: Wulfgar @ Wed Mar 26, 2008 at 17:57:31 PM CDT

Damn right (0.00 / 0)

How can anyone who is supporting Clinton really say they'd vote for McCain? My Christ! How could any Obama supporter say so either? They probably said they would because it was a stupid question. Anyone out there who says 54'40 or Fight are full of it. When you get down to it and look at that crusty old bastard's name on the ballot you'd wake up fast.  

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by: Mathello @ Wed Mar 26, 2008 at 21:23:57 PM CDT

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