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Final Clinton roundup

by: Anna

Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 09:45:34 AM MDT


What will it feel like to be an Obama supporter, I wonder?  I guess I'll find out in an hour or so.  At any rate, here are a couple of pre-Hillary speech links I wanted to share...

Obama supporters and other Democrats are finally getting around to wooing Clinton supporters.  As much as I enjoy the attention, I have to admit that I think a lot of this stuff is a day late and a dollar short:  

Even the Democratic National Committee chairman is avidly trying to make up for accusations that he allowed sexism in the race to pass unchallenged.

"The wounds of sexism need to be the subject of a national discussion," the chairman, Howard Dean, said in an interview. "Many of the most prominent people on TV behaved like middle schoolers" toward Mrs. Clinton.

This is nice.  It would have been much nicer to see this kind of reaction when it would have mattered, though.

Even today, I'm seeing pundits on TV and commenters here talk about, oh, heavens, her ambition!  How audacious she was!  Even while she's literally in a car, traveling to an event where she'll be ending her campaign and urging her supporters to get behind the Democratic nominee (So divisive!  Obviously intent on destroying the party!), people just can't seem to avoid getting in a couple of final potshots.  

more below...

Anna :: Final Clinton roundup
We've discussed the NARAL endorsement of Obama here before, and Obama supporter Katha Pollitt suggests it will hurt women in states like South Dakota, where tiny NARAL affiliates have to fight anti-abortion ballot measures:

NARAL's puzzling, no-strings endorsement of Obama could not have come at a worse moment. Not only was it too late to matter, it needlessly infuriated the Clinton-favoring donor base and important state affiliates. Meanwhile, South Dakota NARAL's operation consists of one paid staffer.

And Digby on Bill and Hillary Clinton, people with past achievements that have been too easily dismissed during the course of this campaign:

If I might digress a bit and say one word about the Clintons, who to many are personas non grata in the Democratic Party now. Whatever happens, Bill Clinton will still be the 42nd president of the United States and the first two term Democrat since Roosevelt. That's never going to change. Democrats should ask themselves, once the smoke has cleared, if it's really a good idea to discredit his accomplishments. However you personally may feel about him, there is value in a popular ex-president remaining popular. Political value. (See: Reagan legacy project.) The question is what they are valued for.

Katha Pollitt, again, who writes about a real movement around Hillary Clinton's candidacy that has been ignored:

Now those women, not all white and not all working class, are on the political map, and so are the issues that made them identify with Clinton: the glass ceiling and the sticky floor, the inequality built into marriage and family life, sexual harassment and assault, lack of support for caring work--paid or unpaid--and, underlying them all, a fundamental lack of respect that over the years can make a woman feel fed up to here. It's an irony of this campaign that Clinton was seen by the pundit class as a kind of über-diva whose attempts to reach out were transparently phony (beer and Canadian Club, anyone?) and yet millions of ordinary women--white, Latino and black--saw their struggles mirrored in hers.

I've found the party's response to these issues pretty disappointing so far, but I hope I'll be pleasantly surprised during the course of the fall campaign.  This is really about what we say we are as a movement, and our actions in the upcoming weeks will either alienate millions of Clinton supporters forever, or draw people back into a party that will be better for having these discussions and facing these issues head-on.  I don't know what will happen yet.  

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Relax, Anna.  Barack is going to do at least as much for the women's movement as Hillary would've done.

Anna, your choices are your responsibility. (0.00 / 0)
It's up to you to do the right thing.  It's not the responsibility of anyone else to 'woo' you into making the right choices.

When did I ever say (4.00 / 1)
I, personally, needed to be wooed?  I think I made it pretty clear that I don't, actually.  

Hillary is standing there telling me she's done and we need to support Barack Obama.  I always said I was with her until she decided it was over, and that's what she's saying.  That's all I need to know.    


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Katha Pollitt's latest column in The Nation is great (4.00 / 1)
You linked to it above, Anna, but here it is again:
http://www.thenation.com/doc/2...

As she says, even people who dislike Hillary (of whom there may even be one or two posting comments here at LitW :-) should be grateful and offer her at least a standing ovation for her efforts.

I'd like to see the phrase "Iron My Skirt" take on the same kind of online hipness as "I Drink Your Milkshake".


Political Correctness (0.00 / 0)
depends an awful lot on where you stand--and in way too many cases, I think, on whether you stand or sit to pee.

Of the two candidates left at the end of May, I thought Senator Clinton was by far the superior candidate; but neither she nor Senator Obama came anywhere close to promising the kind of political action I think will be necessary to keep this nation viable for the next ten years.
As the old song said:

The Rich Get Richer; and the poor get poorer.

To me that is a recipe for failure but candidates like Clinton and Obama think it is just an old song...


"a day late and a dollar short" (0.00 / 0)
Kinda like Clinton's concession?

"It would have been much nicer to see this kind of reaction [from Howard Dean] when it would have mattered, though."

Like when Bill Clinton was race baiting, or Hillary was assassination-awaiting?

"people just can't seem to avoid getting in a couple of final potshots. "

Like you are doing in this article?

"[Bill Clinton's] past achievements that have been too easily dismissed"

I never realized that impeachment was an achievement. "Peace and prosperity" was fine and dandy, but igniting the republican revolution is not something easily forgotten. Lack of loyalty does not infer the dismissing of his achievements, Contrarily, I'd say that Bill Clinton's statements about MLK's dreams being realized when LBJ signed the Civil Rights Act diminished all of the accomplishments of those before him that fought so hard to bring it to fruition.

"a real movement around Hillary Clinton's candidacy that has been ignored"

I'd say that for those involved in Hillary's movement, that they didn't and won't ignore it. That's the thing about movement politics: you're either part of it, or you're not. To say that those that weren't directly involved in Clinton's movement were ignorant of it, is to deny that one can acknowledge gender, racial and environmental progressive movements as good things without having to decry the opposition. To decry opposition to a movement is to participate in the movement. Thus, I can see the good in Hillary Clinton's movement to advance women politically, (without either voting for her or decrying those who, as you suggest, like Dean, didn't stand up for her), while still criticizing the bad that I have seen in her campaign.

"This is really about what we say we are as a movement, and our actions in the upcoming weeks will either alienate millions of Clinton supporters "

Clinton supporters don't get to confiscate the Obama movement for their own without his and his supporter's tacit acknowledgement. The Obama movement is greater than Clinton's, which is why he won. Those that try to equate the Democratic Party's movement with only the Clinton movement still have a long ways to go before they have accepted that Hillary Clinton has lost, and that Barack Obama now has control of the democratic party.


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I was a left wing activist. Bill was no friend of the left. Far from it. He shit on us. Neither is Hillary a friend of the left - sure - she was talking the talk a little. She had to do that because she needed liberal and progressive support to get nominated. But once she got her prize, she, like Bill, would have royally dumped on us.

Some time, Anna, you got to come to grips with something - there was a poll at one time that showed that a majority of people did not think she was trustworthy. I don't think she's trustworthy. I think that is her fatal flaw. Sure, you want to make like it's because she's a woman - that makes you feel good, I suppose, But it's far more basic. It's her as a person. Gender has nothing to do with it.  

Anyway, she's got high negatives that probably would have cost her the election. They don't go away - once people form a negative impression of someone, it doest' change. Her negatives were over 50%.

Get over it.  


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