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On Palin, experience, ability, and Judy Martz

by: Jay Stevens

Sat Aug 30, 2008 at 23:25:53 PM MDT


Some more thoughts on Palin...

First of all, it's pretty amusing watching the right backtrack and redefine what "experience" means in context of a presidential election. Palin's half-term of governorship of a state with 600,000 people and mayoral term over a city of some 8,000 is suddenly being touted as legitimate experience, and any contest of those claims is hating on small states and towns.

Dave Crisp already caught the irony:

As good Republicans have repeatedly warned me, these are serious times, the front lines of an international struggle against Islamofascism, a time when sober reflection and serious military, foreign policy and diplomatic experience were vitally needed. Obama didn't stack up, no matter how pretty his words.

Friday morning, all of that changed. It wasn't experience we needed, I learned, it was an authentic American biography, a feisty political history, a deep pro-life commitment. Foreign policy experience? Hey, she lives just across the Bering Strait from Siberia. Legislative experience? Hey, she was ordering potholes fixed in Alaska before Obama ever ran for office. Washington experience? Hey, haven't you heard that politics is the only profession in which experience counts against you?

Jay Stevens :: On Palin, experience, ability, and Judy Martz
The thing here is, that given McCain's age and health, his selection of his vice-presidential candidate is crucial. So this question isn't just about horse-race talk, it's serious and pertinent and could possibly haunt us if it's the wrong choice. And choosing someone like Palin seems to be a reckless move from McCain. Hilzoy:

was also struck by McCain's willingness to gamble not just with our country, but with his own campaign. He has chosen as his running mate someone he has barely met; who has no experience dealing with the kind of scrutiny she is about to face; who has, by all accounts, not been fully vetted; and who is in the midst of a scandal. That is a shockingly reckless thing to do.

And experience isn't the issue here, it's ability. As Crisp wisely wrote in that post linked above, "if you had known in 1860 what would happen to the country, would you have voted for Abe Lincoln...?" Lincoln, obviously had less legislative experience than Obama, and no executive experience when he won the nation's highest office. But he had the ability.

I'd argue that Obama clearly has demonstrated the ability to lead. His campaign is the size of a Fortune 500 company: his organization has a budget of over a half-billion dollars, he has thousands of staff spread out in offices in all 50 states. He has a marketing department, and a sales department. His campaign sets up huge events on short notice. And by all accounts, it's the best run campaign -- and the most innovative campaign -- in presidential history.

Palin? Well, we don't know. Running for mayor is different than being on the national ticket. Those in Alaska that know her apparently don't think much of her ability at this time to perform on the national leve, and that's far from reassuring.

Frankly, the worst part about Palin is her stance on the issues. She's against abortion, even in cases of rape or incest; opposes the use of contraceptives, even for married couples; favors teaching creationism in school; and opposes extending civil rights to gays. In short, she's a clear extremist on social issues, and far out of step from most Americans.

The odd part about this is that the pick seems to be an attempt at energizing the GOP's social conservative base (mission accomplished) while simultaneously wooing disgruntled Clinton backers. But the only thing Palin offers are her two X chromosones -- otherwise, her stance on issues that matter to most Clinton backers is abysmal. No wonder then support for McCain's ticket actually declined among Democratic women:

Here's a finding from Gallup: Among Democratic women -- including those who may be disappointed that Hillary Clinton did not win the Democratic nomination -- 9% say Palin makes them more likely to support McCain, 15% less likely.

Palin's selection is actually a slap in the face of Clintonites, and McCain's VP choice -- along with the reconciliation and unity message from the Convention -- might actually solidify the Democratic base and backfire on the McCain campaign.

And she does remind you of Judy Martz, doesn't she? That worked out well in Montana, eh?

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I almost think that Palin's pick (0.00 / 0)
is a signal from McCain that he acknowledges the election is not winnable. In other words, the pick has everything to do with rebuilding the republican party for 2012 and 2016. Galvanize the conservative base around a newcomer that can benefit from a brief appearance on the national stage, and who has no negatives deriving from the current republican party miasma. And then retreat back to the statehouse as governor of Alaska to start building a campaign machine that can take advantage of this election cycle's preoccupation with identity politics. If ID politics can work for the dems, it surely can work for the pubs, or so the thinking seems to be going.

Then again it could just be a very stupid move on McCain's part.  


I think McCain... (0.00 / 0)
would have been just as well off had he chosen Judy Martz. The only difference is that Palin is young, by all other measures she and Judy are pretty equal. Plus McCain could have had a former olympian on the ticket. If a woman is a woman (as McCain seems to think), why not Judy?
I am glad someone else is making this comparison. I was saying to someone Friday that Palin is as qualified as Judy Martz. Maybe McCain is saving her for Interior Secretary, or Secretary of Garbage removal.


You're vastly oversimplified ... (0.00 / 0)
Reagan managed to govern despite having Alzheimer's, George W. Bush is kind of a moron himself - the point you're missing is that individuals don't govern - they merely win office. They are our focal points for large coalitions. Government is very big, and a large group of people take over the job of governing.

Palin would be a focal point and she, like Martz, may or may not be convincing as the "person in charge", but that is all irrelevant. If she failed, someone would take her place. Her own talent is largely immaterial.

Can't you see that Obama is representing a large group of people? Do you know who they are? Me neither, but I can tell you this - Wall Street Financial houses are a large part of it - they've given him $22 million to date. Others have given him a lot of money too, and that is who he will represent once taking office.

You place far too much emphasis on the individual, and overlook the group dynamics. Politicians are merely point persons.

The country is hardly at risk. That's way too dramatic.  


who's the group... (0.00 / 0)
that would choose McCain/Palin?

As far as the Obama campaign goes, I can tell you from first-hand experience that his coalition is broad and collaborative. Does it include lobbyists? Surely. But it also includes progressive grassroots activists, who had as much access.

The question should be, what kind of team, what kind of administration would these people assemble? Honestly, as it's been for previous administrations, it'll resemble the campaign that elected them. Often the same people who have key positions in the campaign have key positions in the administration. So...whose campaign was run better?

BTW, if anyone's oversimplifying, it's you, Mr. Notorious. It's easy to take Naderite potshots from your basement...


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But is he going to listen to the very large group of small donors? (0.00 / 0)
Or will he be listening to the smaller group of large donors?

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