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The thing about Max Baucus

by: Barrett Kaiser

Tue Mar 06, 2007 at 08:44:30 AM MST


(In the interest of equal time. - promoted by Matt Singer)

(Disclaimer: Barrett is Max Baucus' Communications Director)

There's a reason why Max Baucus has high approval ratings in Montana. It's because he has a long record of doing what's right for his constituents.

Working with both sides of the aisle is nothing new for Max. Nor is it a matter of political expediency; he's not a partisan person by his very nature. And he's learned over his nearly 30 years in the Senate that nothing of consequence gets done without collaboration.

As he's said, Max is proud as punch to be Democrat. But he's a Montanan and American first. That's something about him that will never change. Nor should it.

Max has amassed some serious clout in the Senate. He's now one of the most powerful people in the country. But the one thing that Montanans continue to recognize - the reason he's won 7 statewide elections - is that he's never forgotten where he's from or the people he represents.

Barrett Kaiser :: The thing about Max Baucus
Throughout his career, Max has done things that could be perceived as liberal, conservative, independent, libertarian, or even constitutionalist. But overall, the overarching theme is that Max Baucus takes his marching orders from all of Montana, folks in places like Shelby, Hardin, Libby, Hamilton - as well as Billings, Great Falls, Butte, Missoula, Bozeman, Helena, and Kalispell.

Consider for a moment some of the things Max has done.

To name a few, Max Baucus:

-Helped write the Children's Health Insurance Program, or CHIP

-Has a 100 percent lifetime pro-choice voting record.

-Passed an outright ban on new oil and gas drilling on Montana's Rocky Mountain Front

-Helped author new welfare reforms that provide child care services so folks can get back to work.

-Authored the Clean Air and Water Act amendments and the Superfund program

-Secured billions in federal funds for the state's highways program, which accounts for more than 18,000 good-paying Davis Bacon jobs.

-Stopped President Bush's plan to privatize Social Security.

-Championed help for the people of Libby who were exposed to asbestos fibers

-Helped write agriculture policies that keep family farmers, ranchers on the land

-Fought the Bush Administration's sale of our public lands for hunting, fishing

Probably the most insidious thing I read in Ari Berman's recent Nation editorial about Max Baucus was the notion that he's somehow beholden to special interest. That's simply not true. He's beholden to the people who sign his paycheck every month: Montanans. 

Here's a raw MP3 excerpt of the interview between Max and Berman. In his own words, Max refutes the notion that contributions influence policy. He also addresses the issue of former staff becoming lobbyists. Berman, of course, didn't use Max's comments, instead choosing to draw his own conclusion based on nothing more than conjecture. 

Nor did Berman publish the fact that Max has one of the strictest ethics polices in the Senate.

Max voluntarily instituted an office policy that includes:

-An outright ban on all gifts from lobbyists.

-No lunches, dinners or meals of any kind

-No lobbyists sponsored trips

-If you become a lobbyist after working for Max you won't be re-hired

Does Max have one of the most aggressive fundraising machines in the country? Yes, absolutely. He's going to build a war chest to defend against the third-party out of state attackers mounting up as we speak. Do those contributions influence how he does business as a U.S. Senator? Absolutely not. That's just not how Max is wired.

Max is working within the confines of a broken system. He's supported every reasonable piece of campaign finance reform legislation put in from him. And he thinks there's too much money in politics. But he cannot unilaterally disarm. Raising money is a reality in modern day politics.

And Berman doesn't say anything about the support Max Baucus has given the Democratic Party as the state highest-ranking elected. Think Jon Tester =U.S. Senator

Max Baucus

-Raised nearly $2 million for Jon Tester during the 06 cycle

-Got the DSCC to go up against Burns early

-Raised $50k for MDLCC, the legislative effort

-Pounds on doors, cuts radio ads, and otherwise helps local candidates every cycle

On Trade

Now he's taking lumps over the debate to renew so-called fast-track trade negotiating authority. Max has a long history on fair trade that stems from the need to open foreign markets to Montana products. He's also proven his ability to take trade agreements on a case-by-case basis, as evidenced by his vote against CAFTA.

But don't forget, by way of example, that 2 out of every 3 bushels of Montana wheat are grown to be exported. The U.S. agriculture market is so saturated that we have to look for new markets overseas. That's what Montana farmers and ranchers want Max to do.

12 million American jobs depend on trade.

Max's recent statements on fast track shouldn't be glossed over either. He berated the U.S. Trade Representative during a recent Finance Committee hearing, noting any agreement has to beef up environment and labor standards and must protect Congress' role in policy making.

Fast-Track Negotiating Authority Could Have Rough Run in Senate

By Victoria McGrane, CQ Staff

The perception has been that the Bush administration faces its toughest battle over renewing the president's expedited "trade promotion authority" in the House.

But on Thursday, Senate Finance Chairman Max Baucus, D-Mont., showed that convincing the Senate won't be easy either.

Baucus opened a hearing with U.S. Trade Representative Susan C. Schwab by saying he supports renewing what is known as fast track for trade deals - with some changes.

Then he subjected Schwab to a series of sharp questions and criticisms, highlighting congressional unhappiness with the administration's past policy and its unwillingness to heed lawmaker concerns.

"There's a sense, I think, on the Hill that those so-called consultations are used by the administration to learn `what's the least amount we can do to get by' . . . to squeeze out a one-vote win on a trade agreement. It's not what it could and should be," said Baucus, historically a free-trade backer.

Baucus proved more blunt than the House Ways and Means Democrats who questioned Schwab on Feb. 14.

He told Schwab that lawmakers want the process modified "so that it requires more direct participation by Congress, not just consultation."

Max has also championed Trade Adjustment Assistance to help workers hurt by trade agreements. This year, he's teaming up with Sen. Norm Coleman to expand TAA for service workers, among other things.

Max isn't going to haphazardly rush into the fast track debate. That's not his style. He's going to get the facts and proceed in a way that's right for Montana and the country.

Finally, Berman calls Max a "schizophrenic figure" because of his ability to work with both Republicans and Democrats. That might make for a convenient zinger in a left-leaning publication, but Max's ability to work together to get things done isn't about politics. It's about producing results for Montana and the country. He learned that value from his friend and mentor, Mike Mansfield. 

Consider what Max said in his recent speech to the Montana Legislature:

"When I think about what it means to work together, I look no further than Mike Mansfield. Our Mike. My friend and mentor. He was the man who served with presidents and foreign dignitaries. He led the country as the longest serving Senate Majority Leader -- during some tumultuous times, I might add.

But Mike never forgot his roots or the people he represented. He said to me once, "Max we represent all of Montana - Democrats and Republicans. We represent everybody." 

He made a point of telling me that. And it stuck with me.

I'm reminded of that conversation by an old northwest Montana newspaper story.

They characterized Mike during his first year in the Senate this way: 

"His philosophy is that he is a Democrat, yes, but first he is a U.S. Senator. He is sometimes liberal, sometimes conservative.

But uppermost in his mind is this thought: What is best for the people? Mike Mansfield is an individualist. But he will work with anyone and everyone when he feels the net result will produce something beneficial to the nation and Montana."

You may not always agree with Max. But to say he does anything but represent Montanans is flat-out untrue and unfair. Max works very hard in the job he loves.

Honestly, I've never seen someone with a stronger work ethic than the senior U.S. Senator from Montana. And he's the same in his personal life. Remember, this is the guy who ran 42 miles after hitting his head on a rock at mile 8 during a 50-mile marathon, before seeking medical attention.

Max goes after a hard day's work like most Montanans do - with everything he's got and then some. That shows time and again through his work product.

There will always be critics and haters on both sides of the aisle. But, at the end of the day, Max is guided by what his employers want and what he thinks is best for Montana and the country.

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Barrett:
Could you please explain to me who these "third-party out of state attackers" are?  (It's the line responding to Max's aggressive fundraising machine.) Thanks.
Pete

It's really pretty simple... (0.00 / 0)
the Rove 527/swift boat machine.  They deperately want the Senate back.  Please stop throwing rocks at our side and start throwing them at the Republicans for once.

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I haven't seen any indication that those folks are targeting Max (0.00 / 0)
Have you?

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Which side are you talking about? (0.00 / 0)
Max Baucus is standing with his feet on either side of the net.  We are trying to build a movement here, not an election to election crapshoot.  We disagree because we are trying to push the net further to one side.  The people of Montana are against fast track.  We have Republican legislators standing up in the legislature saying we need carbon cap legislation.  If Baucus and his staff want us to leave them alone they should vote accordingly.  We throw plenty of rocks at the Republicans.  Our arms are damn sore.  We are PROGRESSIVES not just Democrats sitting under some big party umbrella.  If Max Baucus doesn't want us to throw stones his way, he should support progressive policy.  Otherwise, take cover.  We will criticize the decisions we don't like.

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Max defenders--alternately known as his press office (0.00 / 0)
What I find most interesting is that it has been almost five full days since I posted a diary with a link to the article and yet in that time not a single non-staffer bothered to post a comment defending Max. You usually see people rush to defend people they support against any perceived slight. The point I'm trying to get at is that they way Max has acted during the Bush administration has removed any incentive for people to be passionate supporters. Now there are only haters, toleraters, and his press office. Reminds me of when the New Republic wrote about Max Baucus:

Baucus and his defenders--alternately known as his press office--make two arguments on his behalf. The first is that Baucus is simply doing what he needs to do to get reelected. (This argument usually masquerades behind the mantra of doing what's best for the "people of Montana.") But, unless the way to get ahead in Montana is to insist on overcharging Medicare patients by billions of dollars, the senator has been going far above and beyond the call of duty.

Baucus's second argument is that Democrats get substantively better legislation when he engages Republicans on their behalf. But this argument assumes the Bush administration has the votes to pass legislation without Democratic support. Often, it's Baucus who provides the margin of victory--either with his own vote or by crafting pseudo-compromises that provide cover for a small number of Democratic defectors. Indeed, the Democrats' only real victory of the last five years--stuffing the administration on Social Security--came after Harry Reid cautioned Baucus against freelancing with the White House.

Well, we'll do Reid one better and suggest he boot Baucus from the Finance Committee altogether. If we miss out on a few deals by not having Max Baucus at the table, that's a risk we're prepared to live with.




The Nation Misses the Point (0.00 / 0)
It is too bad, and it is a black mark on the The Nation, one of the most important publications today, that the recent profile of Senator Max Baucus was one-sided and unfair.  Ari Berman's piece fails to take in the total career of the man.  I say that too as someone who was interviewed at length for the piece.  The thrust of my supportive comments and observations were fully discarded, as were those of several others who reside in Montana.  The sad fact is that The Nation set out to paint a caricature of Baucus and his role and place in the Senate, and they succeeded.  But they failed completely to give any reasonably objective account of him.  Again, that is a shame.

From the perspective of the head of the Monatana Democratic Party, one should keep in mind that for 30 years Max Baucus has supported and kept this Party together in body and soul.  And through the toughest years of the 90s when Montana turned awfully red in outlook and temperment, he sustained this organization almost single-handedly from the financial side.  The Nation takes no account of that.

Now Democrats are on the rise in Montana again, and that is good.  But it is wrong to give the back of the hand to the one elected figure who saw it through very difficult times.  When it wasn't cool to be a Democrat in Montana, Baucus was there for this organization.  That is the truth, and while it doesn't fit into The Nation's distorted profile of Max Baucus, the big majority of Montana Democrats fully recognize Max for his strong support of this Party for a very long time.  Real material support, not lip service. That service counts a great deal to many of us.

And I'm not done on this subject.  If this debate continues here, I have much more to say about Max Baucus.  But readers of The Nation who were introduced to the man there for the first time were ill-served.


Do people not change? After 3 decades in DC? (0.00 / 0)
So you are saying Max was great through the 1990's. The Nation has a problem with what Max Baucus has done since then. I fail to see how these two views are mutually exclusive.

As a senator, he gets a six year term and is evaluated by what he has done during that time. Just because he was once good doesn't mean he has been so during the Bush administration and trying to suggest otherwise is misleading. Even more so when the article in question points out that few at the national level paid attention to him until 2000

Elected to the Senate in 1978, the son of a wealthy ranching family, Baucus was little known before he became the ranking Democrat on the Finance Committee in 2000.

That soon changed. After helping to craft the largest tax cut in a generation, Baucus raised more than $1 million in campaign contributions from the financial sector for his 2002 re-election campaign. Opening doors in both directions were former Baucus staffers. During the debate over whether to add a $400 billion privately run prescription-drug plan to Medicare, his former chief of staff, David Castagnetti, and legislative aide, Scott Olsen, were part of the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America's $8 million lobbying effort. Shortly after the legislation--written largely by the pharmaceutical industry--passed, Baucus's top staffer on the Finance Committee, Jeff Forbes, left to open his own lobbying shop, with clients including PhRMA, the drug maker Amgen and the American Health Care Association. These companies have in turn donated generously to Baucus; almost $700,000 between 2001 and 2006 from the healthcare industry and pharmaceutical lobby.

And one final note: this wasn't an introduction to Max Baucus for many readers of The Nation. That came during an article headlined, Senator Sellout.


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Ok... (0.00 / 0)
The Nation article was one-sided and I understand that Baucus was instrumental in seeing the party through here in Montana.  By criticizing Max, I mean no disrespect for his previous service, but we are trying to get past the last 30 years now.  That is the issue, maybe not to the Nation, but at least to me.  This is about the next 30 years. We are simply trying to push the debate forward.  There is some ground we can take back.

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My head is spinning at the spin (0.00 / 0)
Ari Berman's piece in "The Nation" was lengthy and detailed.  He's not doing a Fox News story.  He's not being "fair and balanced".  That's a Republican concoction that for every opinion you have to have the opposite.  I look forward to your more detailed and specific analysis of Berman's piece.  We don't need any more spin.  We are in a world of trouble.  Conservative economic ideas are bankrupt.  We need a new direction in the country.  I'm glad to see that Baucus feels that incrementalism in heathcare is no longer an option.  He should look at the healthcare plan put out by John Edwards that Paul Krugman of the NYTimes thinks will work. 

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Who is in charge? (0.00 / 0)
I am rather confused when Mr Farrell claims to be the "Head" of the Montana Democratic Party--isn't that Dennis McDonald? But anyway, Mr Farrell has only been here for two years and in his time as "Head" he has never bothered to venture out into the state to visit all us Democrats in grassroots and central committees who comprise this party and who work hard all year long not just in election season FOR FREE!  He stays in Helena glued to his computer serving Big Men and talking to Washington.

And sadly the MDP is just an arm of Baucus' campaign committee and does not represent or try to include different points of view in the Party. As we saw and experienced at the Montana Democratic Party Officers' Convention in 2005 and a the Platform Convention last summer--the MDP takes its orders from Baucus and the Governor without permitting real democracy for all of us not considered "players" in their game--the fix is always in--the MDP obeys--

And by the way, all the money that Baucus "gives" or has given to the Party comes with a price which is to do his bidding or else he will withdraw the money and oh...it really is not "his" money it comes from all those who have contributed to his campaigns.  He works for us supposedly.  As commented earlier he has helped Bush & Co many many times when it was not necessary and played the quisling swing vote role when it suited his ambitions and power hunger--not for our sakes.


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Confused about Max (0.00 / 0)
There seems to be some confusion over "the 90's".  It's understandable that Mr. Farrell would not remember since he's been in Montana like ten minutes but Clinton took Montana in 1992, we were not headed into the red we were looking at a bright blue future.  After that 92' victory, the Dem's nationally decided being more like republicans was a good strategy. We then headed into the red.  Why?  Because who wants to vote for dem's pretending to be republicans when you can just vote for the republican.  We lost ground because the dem's abandoned their base and rushed to the center into the right.

Max is a good Senator, not because he does what's good for Montana but because he's better than any republican alternative.  That's not the greatest legacy to leave.

Being in DC for 30 years puts one a bit out of touch with the folks back home.  Be clear, the folks back home HATE all the "afta's",  free trade sucks for Montana even if you take into consideration the minuscule revenue from exports.  Exports which would not be impacted at all by negotiating labor and environmental standards in trade agreements.  This might help our immigration issue too.  The corporation moves to Mexico because there are no environmental reg's and they can hire young pregnant women for peanuts and treat them like shit and kill union organizers. See the connection?

Instead, using the Baucus position, we will someday have no environmental laws and few if any labor laws so WE can be competitive globally.  BS fer sure!


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Perot (0.00 / 0)
Clinton only took this state because so many Independents and Republicans preferred H. Ross Perot.  The '92 presidential election was anomalous in Montana.  In other words, I think that saying the unfettered reign of John Mercer and Mark Racicot culminating in an actual electoral victory for Judy "Least Popular Lapdog in Montana" Martz is fairly construed as conservative.  I like the rest of your post though.

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Max's support of... (0.00 / 0)
bankruptcy reform may ultimately lose him my vote in a primary. Max sold out Montanans and americans to credit card companies and banking interests. Not to mention Max's fairly cozy relations with the Currant Occupant of the white house... and I am having serious conscience issues supporting our senior senator. This from someone who knocked doors in the summer of 02 in every major Montana city for Max.

Another canvasser wondering about S 256 (0.00 / 0)
I have an immense amount of respect for Sen. Baucus and everything he and his office has done for our fine state, but I've never once seen any explanation for the bankruptcy vote to help me understand how this was good for Montana. 

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I'm sure Jon appreciated the help.... (0.00 / 0)
...in the general election because in the primary a number of Max's staffers were not so secretly doing whatever they could to get Morrison elected. 

The reason some of a lot of us younger folks who traditionally are about as politically active as Bob Dole's sex life before Viagra got excited about Jon, is because he told us he wouldn't play the game traditionally.  We believed him, thousands of voters in Montana believed him.  As a result we put the boots to not only Conrad but all the D.C. chuckleheads who have some sort of "model" for the candidates they want to be elected.  Were all betting that Montana's 7 fingered flat top dirt farmer teaches the "establishment" the proper use for bullshit. 

Your not going to muster that kind of enthusiasm when you are asking lobbyists to raise cash for you much like a girl scout troop trying to hit your thin mint sales goal for summer camp.  I hope both Max and Denny give real nice merit badges for the horseback rides this summer. 

Believe it or not, I like Max.  He has done A LOT of good for Montana and the Montana Democratic party.  For those efforts I am thankful.  I don't agree with him on every issue and don't expect to. But hey, its job reevaluation time & the folks doin' the employin' want to talk about how the job done is getting done our behalf. I'm tellin' ya you don't have to ask the K-street crowd for help when you've got the ear of Montanans, we're that good.  Motivate us.  Fire us up. Max, inspire us. Piss off a whole bunch of those corporate lobbyists in D.C. and tell them to go pound sand.  You do that and I'll grow my hair out to match yours and knock doors fo ya, no problem.


Oh Truxton, (0.00 / 0)
You crack me up, where do you get that awesome sense of humor and quick wit, if I didn't know better I'd swear you'd been raised in a household of Reagan Republicans! The Baucus crowd would do well to listen to you and your young progressive friends, you have something worthwhile to offer, and if Max isn't careful, he too could go down the same trail Conrad did, remember the voters in Montana are an Independent lot, I think the last election showed us that. Max is NOT a shoe-in. Who knows who 'my side' will put up against him, it's early in the game, if we're all lucky it'll be some political genius with a mind like a steeltrap for politics, like maybe Brad Johnson.....TeeeHeeeee! You know what they say, "It ain't over til' the fat lady sings".

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Barrett, a little tip (0.00 / 0)
Barrett: Just a little tip from someone who was once a press flack for Members of Congress. You say:

"[Baucus] is now one of the most powerful people in the country."

A piece of advice: If you have to tell people this, you call into question whether it's actually true. Truly powerful people don't need their press flacks going on blogs trumpeting them as "powerful."


Seriously, Sirota? (0.00 / 0)
Are you serious with your post? Have you seen your web site? It is the biggest self-indulgent, "look how cool I am" web site I've seen since, well, ever. Before you start calling people out for self promoting, you should take a long look in the mirror unless you are blinded off the reflection from you bolo tie.

And one more thing, what's with the belt buckle? I mean come on, did you win that for "8 seconds of blogging"? Maybe that cuts it "out on the range" in Philadelphia, but not in Montana.


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you started an account just to say that? (0.00 / 0)
Relax, there is no need to throw down like this is a fight about mulch.

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Choke down a sedative (0.00 / 0)
Barrett, or should I say, "mont_dem":

Thanks for reading my website, and for admiring my choice of dress. I appreciate the readership, and the style compliments. I'm so flattered to hear such nice words from a gopher for "one of the most powerful people in the country."


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whoa (0.00 / 0)
David - that ain't me. i don't post anonymously. and although i'd love to take the bait on your "tip" i'm not going to. you know me well enough to know that i'd tell you under my real name - or to your face - what i think. in addition to that, i'm not going to take this discussion into the personal gutter.

(Barrett works for Max Baucus)

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Fair enough, Barrett (0.00 / 0)
Well, if you say so, I guess that's fair enough - though, come now, I wasn't being (fully) serious, and you'll forgive me for suggesting it was the Baucus staff "taking it into the personal gutter" - it's not something you all have refrained from doing to me and others in the past. And please - don't make me dig up the email trail to prove that basic fact.

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Max has done a great job. (0.00 / 0)
I think that there are a few key observations that should be made about how crucial Max Baucus has been and should continue to be while serving as Montana's senior senator. For example, Montana has been, until recently, a solid red state. Any candidate hoping to gain or maintain an office of Senator should at least partially represent his constituency. Max had to walk a fine line during the tough times of the Democratic Party in order to appease swing Republican votes. His experience and connections in Washington and across the country have benefited Montanans far more than a novice candidate with aspirations towards progressive politics could have.

The results of Max's work is real and continues to serve the people of our state. For instance, he has brought in millions in highway money that would have been diverted to a more populous state. Montana's big. There's less than a million people that live here, and driving to see them can take a long time. It would take a lot longer and be far more perilous if Max hadn't worked to provide desperately needed funds for highways and interstates. Also Max has protected our public lands from privatization. The Vice President of this country, in his benevolent wisdom, thought that taking public lands and putting it in private hands would somehow help people enjoy it more. I'm certain your enjoyment would be dependent upon the amount of money you could cough up for a day's pass. I'm an avid hunter and angler, and I submit that without public lands, Montana would be little more than a playground for the rich.

Max has his faults, what politician doesn't, but that shouldn't mean that he hasn't been doing his job. I'm proud to have Max Baucus representing me in Washington, and hope he can serve me for yet another term, because it's what he does best.


What to do about Max (0.00 / 0)
The line from BlueMontana that I hear so often about Max: "he has brought in millions in highway money?"  I'm sure this makes Denny Washington happy but it sticks in my craw.  If all I wanted from a politician was highway pork, I would have voted for Conrad Burns instead of Jon Tester.  I voted for Jon because he might just shake up this pay-to-play system in Congress.  But Max seems quite comfortable playing the K Street game.

Max is a conundrum.  I'm constantly conflicted on what to do about him.  Yes, as Jim Farrell points out, he's helped sustain Montana's Democratic Party over the years, as well he should.  And as the Nation points out, he's always been good on women's choice issues.  (The Nation also touted his environmental record - which I don't believe is that strong.  Here's what Wikipedia says: "Despite his mixed record on environmental issues?."  I remember him voting against tougher fuel efficiency standards for pickup trucks shortly before his last election.  And he certainly hasn't taken a leadership position on global warming.)

Maybe that's my biggest problem with Max - lack of leadership.  He's been in Congress for some 33 years and he's now chair of the powerful finance committee, so where's the leadership?  I want to see bills being advanced by him on health care, not just press releases.  I want him to follow up on his statement to bring the troops home from Iraq but haven't heard a peep since the first of the year.  I still wonder about his votes on Medicare, bankruptcy, and the estate tax.

Don't get me wrong.  I'll take Max over any Republican, anytime.  He's a saint compared to, say, Denny Rehberg.

But how do we get him to vote in a more progressive way?  Is there anyone crazy enough to go up against the vaunted Baucus machine in the primary?  Do we just keep putting pressure on him through phone calls, emails and blogs?  Or do we shake our heads and do nothing knowing that Max will continue do exactly as he pleases - because he can?  What think you, the blogging public?


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Primary? (0.00 / 0)
I think that pete puts it just right here.  Baucus is a conundrum to progressive voters and the grassroots.

While I am glad that Barrett has joined the conversation here, I don't feel like we are changing Baucus' mind on this blog.  I have called his office, written letters, and e-mailed many times as a constituent, to no avail.  I hate feeling ignored by Montana's Senior Senator, simply because he doesn't need my individual vote to hold on to his power (I wonder, too, what all that power is worth, if he never uses it to push the envelope).

I am not sure that a primary challenge will change Sen. Baucus' voting much either.  That said, he seems to ignore every other form of contact from progressive voters.  Honestly, we are not asking for him to make abstract philosophical changes here.  We are saying that his fast track policy is bad for Montana, economic development presentations by deregulation execs held in Butte are insulting, words on Iraq are fine, but we want some action, etc..  These are all fairly reasonable constituent concerns, and I am not sure, based on this post, that Barrett or Sen. Baucus are listening.  We say, "these things are bad."  They retort, "we are good at such and such."

I want to know that my Senator listens to my concerns, rather than thinking up other policy stances that I might agree with.  If he won't listen to conventional contact--the grassroots are great at this, I would add--then a more dramatic example is called for.

One final note, no matter how long a public official has served, constituents do not owe him or her.  We sign a paycheck for his or her represention.  That Baucus has done some good things is fine, but it was his job to do that.  He owes us more than this, when he asks for our votes again.  It is too bad that so many elected officials have lost sight of what they are paid to do vs. what they owe voters.


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Nice, articulated very well. (0.00 / 0)
I'll keep this for future reference.  It cuts to the heart of this discussion amongst us.  We are having a discussion here amongst ourselves because there is no where else that we can have it.  Many of us have written letters and have sat down with Max's representatives.  Not once have I had a response to an inquiry about Iraq or trade without having 100% NARAL flung in my face.  I don't even like the concept of NARAL and only donate to actual people doing the work like Planned Parenthood or Blue Mountain Clinic.  More than one "liberal" Senator uses NARAL as cover.  What hurts women more?  Bankruptcy bills, not having a living wage, sending their children to war, predatory lending, lack of ability to participate in class action suits, stagnant wages, union-busting....

And yes, I was insulted during the election to receive several letters telling me that I had to thank Senator Baucus and Governor Schweitzer for their work during the campaign.  They are government officials being paid a yearly salary and it is to their best interest to get Democrats elected.  I, on the other hand, was a volunteer and a contributor.  Where was my thank you letter?  The constant complaining from paid political people about how much we owe our leaders would make Tom Paine's and Tom Jefferson's skin crawl.  George Washington didn't even want to be paid.  Shocking what it has come to.


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leadership (0.00 / 0)
Pete - as always, thanks for your comments. I can't in the interest of time address your every point, but I have to pushback on the lack of leadership assertion:

CHIP

CHIP

Universal Health Care

Climate change

Rocky Mtn. Front (for which he gets NO love)

Iraq

(Barrett works for Max Baucus)


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Right Arm, Pete! (0.00 / 0)
If all I wanted from a politician was highway pork, I would have voted for Conrad Burns instead of Jon Tester.

I hear that mantra at each election, but I have yet to find anybody that got a job because of highway pork.  I found one person who knew one person that had a job at the Burns Technology Center.  So for higher college tuition, higher prescription drug prices, high healthcare costs, stagnant wages, an unending war for profit, high gas prices, inability to declare bankruptcy, predatory lending, loss of manufacturing jobs,crappy treatment of our vets we get some highways repaved and a parking garage?  Thanks, but no thanks.

But what to do, Pete?  Nothing will change unless we pick a candidate for President who will fight for labor, fight for our small manufacturers who are employing Americans, fight to stop the growing income disparity, fight to make us energy independent and fight for the people not the corporations.
About Max?  With all the millionaires we have here, you'd think they'rd been one willing to do a Ned Lamont. 


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Listen to FDR (0.00 / 0)
Pete's question is a good one - how do you make a Senator like Baucus better represent ordinary folks? It's a question not limited to Baucus - it's a question wherever you go, and especially when it comes to career politicians who have been in Washington for three decades.

The answer has something to do with the famous words of Franklin Delano Roosevelt. He told a delegation of citizens pushing him to support a given position, "Okay, you've convinced me. Now go on out and bring pressure on me."

Put another way, it's not enough to hope to convince Max Baucus (or any other senator) to agree personally with us. Not only is that perhaps impossible, but it's irrelevant in terms of what he will end up DOING, which is most important. This is a man who is a professional politician - a vessel, if you will, for whoever most effectively pressures him to carry their water. If we want Max to do better, then it is incumbent on us to pressure him and create the political environment that makes him doing better a political necessity FOR HIM.

This is Politics 101. In carrot vs. stick terms, Max would like us to only use the carrot method - but with K Street dumping huge amounts of cash into his campaign, any of the carrots we give him are not going to add up to change. It is the mix of the carrot AND the stick of focused grassroots pressure that may make the difference.


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Washington Corp... (0.00 / 0)
and Envirocon - the Halliburton of Montana.

No bid contracts - gotta love 'em.


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abuse of position (2.00 / 1)
It appears that Barrett made this post at 8:44 MST, which would be 10:44 a.m. in Washington, DC.  I don't know about you, but that's right in the middle of a work day in DC.

Barrett is apparently using his offical position to perform pro-Max political work on the taxpayer dime.  People are free to use their evenings and weekends as they please, but in the very least this looks like a blatant misuse of government resources and at most, a violation of law.

Barrett is Max's senatorial office commmunication's director, not his political campaign director.  I smell something very fishy here. 


Though I'm not in the habit of defending Barrett... (4.00 / 1)
...it should be noted that he works out of the Billings office, not DC.  Also, while I disagree with some of the rhetoric in his post, I believe his job description is to write supportive copy for Max, whether it's for the newspapers, radio, blogs -- whatever.  Barrett's just doing his job.

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even still (2.00 / 1)
Even if he's in Billings, most people are at work at 8:45 a.m.

There is a difference between legislative work and campaign rhetoric.  This is campaign rhetoric on the taxpayer dime. 

Max obviously has millions in his campaign account.  If they feel these messages need to get out, remove any appearances of impropriety and hire a campaign staffl. 

I'm not a computer whiz, but I do know it's not that hard to check where the physical location of any online posts are made.  Let's hope it's not coming from Max's downtown Billings office.


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It's his job (0.00 / 0)
He's supposed to do things like this. Yes even on our dime.

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Goofy (0.00 / 0)
Barrett probably logs 70 - 80 work weeks.  I don't love Max, don't know Kaiser, but I do know the work ethic of many of the Baucus staff and they work hard, even if at things I don't like.  It's good for progressives -- he's talking to us, he's likely been blogging before under other names.

Leave it alone, we want to hear what he thinks.  What I really want is for him to ANSWER Pete Talbott, "how do we get him to vote more progressively".

We know he is good the easy stuff, even the Rocky Mountain Front drilling issue is easy if you are from Montana. Max shouldn't worry about the "love" as Kaiser states.  I don't care if he doesn't get any "love" he should get love from his wife and family he should defend the integrity of Montana even if he has to muster up some actual courage.


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Seriously? (4.00 / 1)
I really can't believe that some of y'all don't see Barrett Kaiser posting here as a VERY GOOD thing, and instead post garbage like this trying to get him fired. I WANT Baucus's staff to interact with us. I sure as heck don't agree with everything Baucus has done the past 6 years, but I most certainly DO approve of him letting his communications director communicate with blogs. So stop trying to scare him off. It won't work, and it shouldn't.

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I was the first to whack Barrett for posting (0.00 / 0)
My problem was that Kaiser was posting without disclosing that he was getting paid to communicate. He remedied that and has been very forthcoming with everything he has posted since. His prompt willingness to adapt to the online standards deserves credit.

I like the fact Barrett is getting up early to post long pieces trying to defend his boss. I appreciate that and have long admired Kaiser.

I think the problem is that The Nation lays out a better case than Barrett's response. I don't see that as a reflection upon Kaiser, but upon the person he is paid to shill for.


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The Free Trade Bamboozle (0.00 / 0)
Here's just the most recent story from the not so Leeebural Wall Street Journal about the free trade flim flam that's going on.  I can't believe that we are to not be anything other than appalled that Max would co-sponsor anything with a right wing hack/idiot like Norm Coleman???? Hello! 
Read this about the marvelous job that Republicans with the help of Max are doing for those who have been thrown on the garbage heap of outsourcing.
For more than 80 years, the people of Webb Furniture crafted wooden dressers and other furniture here at the foot of the Blue Ridge Mountains. In January, under pressure from Chinese imports, Webb shuttered its Galax plant and fired all 309 employees.

Tonya Graber lost more than her job painting furniture. The single mother also lost health insurance for herself and her 12-year-old son. Under a government program aimed at helping workers harmed by trade, Ms. Graber was eligible for federally subsidized health insurance, but she couldn't afford it.

What is it?  Does Max not get what is going on with the foolish "The World is Flat" mantra?  Or is he cynically using this to bask in some kind of glory?  Is he foolish or cynical?  Please enlighten us. But never take us for fools.


Sorry for sounding harsh. I just had finished (0.00 / 0)
watching "The Ghosts of Abu Ghraib" by Rory Kennedy on HBO.  It's a really disturbing piece about how little we support our troops and how we have quickly lost any moral authority we once had. That and the testimony by the veterans and Mrs. McLeod on the crap going on at Walter Reed has further angered me.  Privatization of healthcare, our armed forces, our emergency agencies, prisons, roads, all point to how failed the conservative economic policies are.  The world is not flat.  And I am  sick of cold calculation running things.  Max once famously said that outsourcing was something America must learn to live with.  For Montanans that are OK with that, I suggest that you settle into that simmering pot with the rest of the frogs and just relax.  Maybe it won't hurt so very much.  If you are OK with still being 49th in wages and first in number of jobs held by one person, fine, simmer away.  If you are Ok with 8 out of the 10 poorest counties in the United States being in Montana, fine, think that you're in a Jacuzzi. Running on Pork is "Running on Empty."

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In Fairness to Norm Coleman (0.00 / 0)
Norm is actually coming over to the light side with this on predatory lending:
Sen. Norm Coleman of Minnesota, the panel's senior Republican, said high interest rates on credit cards, "hefty fees and crippling penalties impede more and more hard-working families from pursuing their American dream."

The problem is worsened by the "impenetrable" language of credit card disclosures provided to consumers, he said.



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Very good piece (0.00 / 0)
Well-written piece by a front-line soldier for Max. One disagreement:

contributions influence policy.

That's all there is to it, denial is futile. The system is designed to give people with money influence over policy. Max is self-deluding at best here if he truly thinks otherwise.


Gimme a break (0.00 / 0)
I've worked press before, and I think this ridiculous conversation about Kaiser's shamelessness begs the question of surrogacy, which the Baucus staff should consider. 

The whole point of arranging surrogate media is so that you don't make your own flacks look like shameless hacks for promoting you when they're being paid to.  On the same token, when you're hitting an opponent, you don't look quite as bad for it.

Barrett's posting, and the discussion that has ensued since is simply bad PR.  Get a surrogate to do this type of work, and your press operation won't ooze of mediocrity. Nor will its recepient Mr. Max.

Nobody say anything too terrible though, or we'll have Jim Messina tracing all our email accounts to make sure we NEVER WORK IN DEMOCRATIC POLITICS AGAIN!  He can do these things, and he can also eat a sh-t ton of french fries. Watch out!


So... (0.00 / 0)
What are you demanding is less transparency?

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