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Peace Rallies and How to Destroy Our Credibility

by: Kilgore

Mon Mar 19, 2007 at 13:08:58 PM MDT


I just attended the Students for Peace and Justice rally against the war in Iraq and I must say I left before it was over and was very discouraged. If you really want to destroy any credibility that you have, just invite a conspiracy theorist to speak at your rally. I like folk singers but I don't think they are the best way to connect with college students.

I have had it with the Vietnam comparisons and I think that we have lost any advantage by comparing the present conflict to our failed police action.  Apparently the pacifists cannot let go of Old School pacifism. I watched students rolling their eyes as they walked by the spectacle. These were not people who think that the Iraq war is the best thing since Nintendo either.

Young people are turned off when they think about their parents for any reason.  Staging a hippy-style rally complete with folk singers, strange speakers, and the bizarre is the exact opposite way to get young people involved in the anti-escalation movement. We need to provide arguments against the current plan, not talk about why Bush is the devil"

I am an ardent pacifist and a weirdo myself, but hippies will never be a majority. Want to stop the war? Tell people why it's a good idea for them to oppose it in accordance with THEIR values. Stuff like this simply shoots us in the feet.

Kilgore :: Peace Rallies and How to Destroy Our Credibility
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What is your main reason for opposing the war in Iraq?
None. I support the war.
The loss of human life.
The burden it will place on taxpayers.
Weapons of Mass Distruction were never found.
It is unwinnable.
It gives the U.S. a bad name around the world

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I appreciate, and agree with your take, but would caution folks to remember timelines. Don't feel bad, television shows do it all the time.

MY parents were from the hippie age. I was born in 1972 and am now 34. For the 'college kids' in the age range of 18 to 25, remember they were born in between 1980 and 1985. So, no, they should not hold a rally featuring peg legged jeans and mullets.


Sorry to interject (0.00 / 0)
But most college kids these days' parents are still baby boomers. My parents were coming of age during the hippie era and I would imagine the parents of most college students at least certainly remember such an era.

Somehow the late '60s has become a revered time for activists, despite the fact that the bout of activism may have been the least successful of any in America's history. The Free Speech Movement at Berkeley created a foil for Ronald Reagan that continues to haunt college campuses and higher education funding. The anti-war movement during Viet Nam possibly actually extended the life of the war and alienated blue collar America for a generation.

There is occasional progress in bouts of anger, but it is typically found in more strategic thinking.

Kilgore -- you nailed this post, IMO.


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Blaming the activism of the 60's for the rightwing agenda is kind of a stretch, (0.00 / 0)
fella.

I'm glad that the unsuccessful activism of the 60's didn't result in anything like the EPA, organic food labeling, expanded voting rights for all, desegragation of schools and public places, the end of the draft, etc.

If only they could have appoached activism in a cool rational manner like the Wobblies did, and Mother Jones did, then perhaps they would have accomplished more... that's what i love about the activism of the labor movement. They kept emotion out of the mix, and just used strategic thinking.../sarcasm


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I'd answer the poll (0.00 / 0)
Except that "all of the above (save number 1)" isn't an option listed.

I have heard this kind of reasoning before, but I have never seen one who (0.00 / 0)
promotes this reasoning actually organize a "better " peace rally.

All I've seen the proponents of this line do is criticize someone else's efforts to promote peace. The bottom line is always that someone else's efforts to promote peace is "hurting our cause, destroying our credibility."

I've heard this said about the marches on DC, Camp Casey, The Demonstrations at the Republican Convention, etc. ad finium. I'm just amazed that all these "mis-guided" efforts haven't apparently hurt the peace movement yet. In fact, it apparently is growing in spite of being completely off base and non-credible.

I'm not at all opposed to  new ideas, new formats, new ways to better promote peace.

Got any actual ideas, or is the idea just to criticize other's efforts until they come up with ideas you like better?

When the small army of the "they are destroying our credibility" people actually organize an event of their own that meets their as of yet still unknown criteria, I sure hope I hear about it. I'd love to see what this crowd can actually produce, other than criticism.


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